Canadian fighters just don't seem to have it

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  1. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    you're a Canadian???

    i thought you were a Yank, Scar?
     
  2. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yet no one quits more in fights that the Americans... :think
     
  3. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Most of their fighters ain't even Canadian
     
  4. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lewis is a Brit, so no. but you have produced some good fighters over the years.
     
  5. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lennox came to live in Canada at the age of 12 and learned the fundamentals of his boxing skills here among Canadian coaches. From what I've read, even British people themselves regarded him as a 'Briton for convenience', but once he starts achieving major success, the story changed.

    I'm not denying he's British, but he's Canadian as well. Grew up here for a time, learned his skills here, holds citizenship.
     
  6. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lucien Bute is really the only one you can claim that about, but with that said, he has received his citizenship, and is proud to fight here and call it his home.

    As for guys like Pascal and Stevenson who were born in Haiti, they came to Quebec at a young age, an age were you are still to be very much immersed and influenced by the culture of your new home. They also learned their skills among Quebecois coaches. I don't buy this **** about not 'belonging' to a country because you weren't born there. What matters legally is your citizenship, but what matters fundamentally is the influence and engagement of a culture and way of life on an individual, and their own personal identity.

    Same goes for Pier-Olivier Cote, who was adopted from Colombia at one and a half years old.
     
  7. Cafe

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    Lucian Bute is from Romania and most of your other good fighters are from Haiti. There's not a single actual Canadian.
     
  8. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You didn't really add any counter points to my argument, instead repeating yourself, which my last reply already dealt with, so yeah, try again.
     
  9. second to none

    second to none Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes Gatti was such a softie lol and of course GSP is a notorious *****. Listen boxing in Canada suffers because other physical sports are way more popular hockey and of course MMA is bigger then boxing in Canada.
     
  10. Cafe

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    Can you name me a Canadian boxer who is good right now that was born and bred in Canada?
     
  11. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Except Pascal and Stevenson barely even grew up there, smart ass. Stevenson moved with his family when he was 4, I believe Pascal was around that age as well.
     
  12. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You could say that about a lot of countries.
     
  13. iamtheman

    iamtheman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Born, no. Unless we can count Lemieux, who is decent, not great.

    Bred, yes. Both Stevenson and Pascal moved to Canada at the age of 4. So unless your entire value/belief system, personal characteristics, ways of life and personal identity are completely shaped and set it stone by then, you're full of ****.

    Like I've said, being born in a country doesn't mean ****. It becomes meaningless without the upbringing. It's the upbringing that matters.
     
  14. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Someone doesn't know about Froch's stock going up. :nono
     
  15. deezolfan229

    deezolfan229 Member Full Member

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    St-Pierre, Jean, Stevenson, Stiverne, Pascal, Rory Macdonald is a pretty big list imo