Canello vs Tommy Hearns

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Canelo vs Tommy Hearns Middleweight

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  2. Hearns

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  1. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Alvarez hasn't fought at middle for over 3 years.
    You want him to drop 8lbs to accommodate Andrade? How about Andrade puts on 8 lbs and fights him at Super Middle?
    In passing.
    1. Who is Andrade's best win?
    2,Why doesn't Andrade show any interest in facing Golovkin?
     
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  2. Cobra33

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    Pretty sure Andrade offered to move up and fight Canelo multiple times.
    What was PLANTS best win? And yet Andrade has more wins and has been a champion longer.
    Everybody avoids Andrade.
     
  3. Tonto62

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    Offered to move up ?What exactly is stopping him?
    Plant was no 2 at168lbs
    Andrade no 2 at middle weight ,spot the difference?
     
  4. Tonto62

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    Kovalev was a reigning LHVY champion and is still top 4 ranked today.

    He had lost 3 fights inhis career up till then,2 to Ward, and 1 to Alvarez which he reversed
    GGG is still a reigning champion today.

    You're making a fool of yourself here.
     
  5. Cobra33

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    Would you stop with the BS. "REIGNING" this or that.
    Keep it real. He was DONE evidence by his titanic struggle with Anthony Yarde. My god what more evidence do you need?
    If someone said at that time put your money on the best light heavy you wouldn't be putting it on KOV.
    He picked the weakest champion of the three.
    God and now your like hey he's still rated top 4 in the world. And he's done what since vs Canelo? Nothing.

    He got KNOCKED OUT by a beginner in Alvarez. Knocked out.
    Ward a super middle took his heart with body shots.
    Meanwhile in the same division you have Arthur knocking out EVERYBODY and is unbeaten.
    And has a title.
    Which fight is more dangerous - Arthur vs Canelo or CANELO vs Kov?

    I've seen the greats. The Leonards. Hearns. Hagler.
    Jones. Hopkins. Whitaker. Sanchez.
    And I've seen them in person. I feel sorry for your generation. You have to prop up a boxer who is a meal ticket so he gets all the advantages.

    Hearns beat Cuevas for his first title. Beat Benitez for his second. Beat Roldan. Beat Andries.

    So you have Benitez and Cuevas. Roldan and Andries.

    Canelo has?
     
  6. Cobra33

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    Again. Answer the question. Who is Plants best win going into the Canelo fight? And how long had he been champ compared to Andrade?
    And I like Plant but Andrade is on a different level.
     
  7. Cobra33

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    What a dumb post. You do know that Hearns was shot the 2nd Barkley fight and it was a split decision at that?
    Pipino hit hard and got knocked out. How about Duran? Does he hit hard enough? He lasted 2 with Hearns. Roldan rough enough? He lasted 4.
    Its so obvious you've never seen Hearns fight.
    And I know you didn't see the Barkley fight either because all credit to Barkley for hanging in there and taking it but he threw a Sunday punch and it landed on Hearns.
     
  8. Cobra33

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    Don't follow either Canelo or GGG. Like to watch them but they aren't a favorite of mine.
    So when they fought I was neutral. Just wanted to see a good fight.
    GGG was totally robbed in that fight. It was a very bad decision. I felt horrible for him. Here's a great boxer who finally gets a big bout at the END of his career and does what he has to do to get the win and they TAKE it from him. Horrible.
    And that's what's so funny. Canelo challenges Mayweather. HE calls Mayweather out. They fight.
    Canelo gets dominated the entire fight. DOMINATED.
    Oh wait he was too young. Too green. Mayweather drained his strength and excuse after excuse.
    Canelo vs GGG. Good match up. A champion past his best but still capable. Fight a long time coming.
    At the end of 12..........DRAW. Even though pretty much everybody had GGG winning.
    So his two biggest fights he has a loss and a draw.
     
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  9. PernellSweetPea

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    He just fought him, so that is what much of the talk of Canelo is about right now.. Tommy was better than Jacobs, and he had a right hand which would have landed on Canelo. How would a guy 5-8 take it. Most guys went down who were that height whom Tommy hit. Andries at the time was a decent fighter.
     
  10. Tonto62

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    Alvarez a beginner? He was 24-0-0 and had just beaten Pascal.

    Canelo has
    Lara
    Saunders
    Plant
    Golovkinx2
    Jacobs
    Kovalev
    Trout

    Was Kova or was he not a reigning lhvychampion?
    Yes?
    No?
    He picked the weakest of the lhvy champs? And Hearns didn't? Why didn't Hearns challenge WBO champ Moorer ?lol
    You've seen all the greats and feel sorry for me and my generation ? I'm 73 on the 21st of this month LOL same birthday as David Tua.
    I've seen a few decent fights and fighters since I began going to arenas back in the late sixties
    Roldan was an average contender,Andries an overachieving journeyman who got lucky against another journeyman,Cuevas a great puncher average boxer.Benitez defensive wizard.

    Yes he's on a different level ,he is a middleweight and Plant is a super middle.
     
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  11. Flash24

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    See Hearns vs Duran for my answer.
     
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  12. Tonto62

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    So Hearns beat a 33 yrs old guy who was at his best at lightweight?
    How about seeing Duran v Barkley for the answer?
     
  13. BCS8

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    Yes because Andrade is a boring fighter that will make you look bad even if you beat him.
     
  14. Flash24

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    The post wasn't about Barkley it was about Hearns vs Alvarez.
    In my opinion The results would be very similar to the results
    of Hearns vs Duran.
    If you're taking it as some knock against Duran it isn't. If their
    was one fighter built to destroy fighters under 5'10'" it's was
    Hearns . Especially when they had a reach much shorter than
    his. (Hagler though 5'9" had a reach of 75". Hagler was also a natural
    Middleweight unlike Canelo whom , without modern day pharmaceuticals
    probably would be fighting at welter or lower, esp 30 yrs ago and beyond)
    Boxing sometimes is about simple match-ups., Certain styles or physical
    attributes .
    So don't take my using of what happened to Duran against Hearns as some knock
    against him , it certainly isn't that.
    It's just my opinion of what would happen to most fighters that much shorter than Hearns
    and hindered by that big of a reach difference.
    Canelo included. Because Canelo isn't close to the fighter Duran was, even a slightly pass
    prime Duran.
     
  15. Cobra33

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    God your knowledge is so weak. Moorer was a stable mate of Hearns In KRONK why would they fight?
    Andries is a two time champion and guess what? He doesn't QUIT like Kov.
    Also look at what Andries did AFTER he fought Hearns. What's Kov done since Canelo?
    Cuevas is one of the greatest punches in the Welterweight history. And had about 10 defenses of his title.
    Roldan was average but he also was pretty strong for his weight class.
    There is ONE boxer on that list who is HOF material.
    And he GOT ROBBED the first time he fought Canelo.
    That speaks volumes right there.
    Trout wouldn't have got out of the fifth round with Hearns same with Lara.
    All these guys you name with the exception of GGG Hearns.