Canelo Àlvarez vs Stanley Ketchel @160, 20 rounds

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Dorrian_Grey, Apr 28, 2024.


Who wins and how?

  1. Canelo KO

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  2. Canelo decision

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  3. Ketchel KO

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  4. Ketchel decision

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  1. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    How does the Michigan Assassin handle the ginger Guadalajaran? (Prime for prime)
     
  2. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter Full Member

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    Clenelo should be able to cook Ketchel easily, unless there’s something about Ketchel’s style that the film we have of him doesn’t show.
     
  3. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Could you break it down for us? Why would Canelo beat Ketchel and how?
     
  4. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter Full Member

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    By outclassing him from a technical perspective, in any way he wants. Picking Ketchel apart from the outside would be far less risky than trying to outfight him on the inside, but I think Canelo could probably do both and win.

    That's mainly due to how unimpressive I find Ketchel on film, though. I actually would rather see Papke-Canelo.
     
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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Wouldn't qualify as a Canelo sparring partner.
     
  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Well how will he outclass him from a technical perspective? In a world where most inside fighting is guard punching in turns you think Canelo could beat Ketchel? whose era was likely the strongest for inside fighting? Why do you find Ketchel unimpressive he’s done things we don’t see fighters do now in the small film we do have.
     
  7. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Canelo’s sparring partners must be better then his competition.
     
  8. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter Full Member

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    Because he's a far better technical fighter in pretty much every way? Even for his time Ketchel was very crude, even when he's fighting on the inside he's wild as **** and leaves himself open frequently with his wild ass swings. He certainly has nothing to offer Canelo from the outside. The only way I can see Ketchel winning this is by pretty much making it a wrestling match and finding a way to find Canelo's chin in the ugliest fight possible, and you're right that the rules wouldn't exactly stop him from doing that.

    What do you find so impressive about Ketchel on film? He's probably one of the ugliest fighters from that period. Other middles from the period Langford, Klaus, Papke and even Carpentier look much better than Ketchel does. He's essentially the middleweight Wilder.
     
  9. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    Lil bit I wrote up on Ketchel that would give you an idea on my opinion, sorry it’s not new I just can’t be fecked rewatching and rewriting
     
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  10. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    To shed a little insight on why I think this is an interesting matchup is because Ketchel had really good stamina and could take a hellacious beating very well, while Canelo has a famously poor engine, takes a shot well, and gives a shot well. Canelo is the better boxer and will have Ketchel walking into his hard counters for a while, but Ketchel and his iron-clad chin (and his occasional cute defensive moves) might be able to stand up to such counters while pressing the action and backing Canelo up. Then Canelo starts to gas around the 10th (being generous, considering he'll be pacing himself better hopefully) and has the second half of a fight to deal with the Michigan Assassin coming after him and trying to club his ginger locks off.
     
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  11. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    20 rounds? Ginger wilts like lettuce in the summer heat.
     
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  12. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    I was considering making it 45 just for the humour of the thought of the Ginger huffing and puffing while Ketchel hunts him down but decided against it.
     
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