Canelo: $15M Is More Than Golovkin Deserves. Take it or Leave it.

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  1. kirk

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    Cj... no disrespect, but are you not understanding the conversation you started when you quoted me?

    ~ you quoted me saying Canelo, the guy who has the better resume, bigger name, and bigger fights available to him than G has , needed G more than G needs Canelo.

    * That is patently false *

    You're just wrong... period. Canelo factually is the bigger name... he factually has more options available, and he factually makes more per fight than G. All which combine to factually support he doesn't need Golovkin the same way G needs him.

    Your opinions on the quality of fights and character of the fighters, while I respect your opinion and the manner in which you conduct yourself, has literally nothing to do with your claim, and hence has nothing to do with this discussion.

    Your opinion on the character of canelo and the quality of fights he makes has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that G needs him more financially.

    Its like you telling me that apples sell more than oranges, and when I tell you no actually oranges sell more than apples and its a verifiable fact, your response is well you dont like oranges so we will have to disagree.

    Do you see how your feelings on a fight is irrelevant to how financially big it is? Do you then see that if Canelo has more big fights available to him than G does, and he gets paid more per fight than G, that he doesn't need G the same as G needs him?
     
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  2. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    I tend to agree on that, I don't think it will be a blow out, but I do think GGG will win. But that has nothing to do with the business side of things.
     
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  3. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    You seem to have changed the goal posts.

    Before it was Caneloweight....take it or leave it.
     
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  4. kirk

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    Monroe fought Golovkin... favors Canelo to beat him.

    Kovalev is Golovkins buddy, and was there when G and Canelo sparred, says the fight is 50 / 50.

    I chose those two because they are both linked to Golovkin. Plenty of other boxing insiders think its close or favor Canelo.
     
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  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Ok I see your point there Kirk Youre right . I apologize Now can I ask you a question??
    Who do you think will win the Golovkin - Alvarez fight if it is fought on a level playing field with unbiased officials I say that because I do not think GGG would get a fair fight in Vegas
     
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  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    If the fight is fair with no controversy I will congratulate the winner & call him CHAMPION whoever wins
    I said exactly the same thing before May/Pac but sadly Floyd wasn't man enough to fight Manny in a fair fight I my opinion
     
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  7. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Bro I'm not saying Floyd beating Manny in 2015 is a huge win it's not. It's a good win but far from great. Im asking you not to be bias. You accuse Floyd of peds due to his IV. Well Manny refused to do drug testing even though he had tattoos his excuse was "I'm afraid of needles". Also in 2009 when the fight matter. Mannys own team said it was his fault.
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    I'm just asking you not to be bias /shrug I can see it won't happen but atleast attempt it

    You remind me of one of those dudes who say mayweather ducked Mosley when everyone intelligent person knows Floyd called him out only to be turned down due to dentist work that Mosley had to have
     
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  8. kirk

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    Right on man.

    Hmmm... as for the fight. Two years ago I would have picked G to dominate Canelo and stop him in 7... its my opinion that G is aging and Canelo is now in his prime... I think its a really great fight now and Im still picking Golovkin to wear Canelo down late but im not counting Canelo out at this point.

    Golovkin KO 10 would be my pick but Id be prepared for any outcome.

    This has gone from a fight I was gonna lay a grand on G in... to one I might not bet on.
     
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  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Wise man Kirk I'll never bet on boxing I hope when it happens its a good fight with the best man winning
     
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  10. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    So then why do people want to watch the mismatch so much?!?
     
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  11. gold

    gold Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Canelo is not as good as GGG and just because the USA is infested with Mexicans who support him he has to remember GGG is the undefeated Undisputed king and deserves the bigger cut. The truth.
     
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  12. reptilian777

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    Didn't this canelo guy give his WBC belt away so he didn't have to fight GGG?
    Cant believe he is still relevant
     
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  13. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Might not for you, but I'm sure it grated on Canelo that he sold himself short. For the risk that GGG brings he will be wanting as much money as he can.
     
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  15. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Interesting view. Interesting choice of wording. Interesting alternate reality.
     
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