Canelo Alvarez: I'm Still The Best In The World, No Other Fighter Takes Risks Like I Do

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I'm still not impressed with the list of people Loma or Crawford have faced in their careers. Canelo didn't beat any of the impressive people that he faced, but at least he fought GGG, Lara, Mayweather. I still think the Kovalev fight was fixed. The only great name on Loma's ledger was old enough to be retired and so much smaller that it was comical.

    Loma and Crawford sort of remind me of GGG's career before Canelo, or Hopkins before Trinidad. They have a long list of defenses but against who? Shinsuke Yamanaka had 13 bantamweight defenses but his biggest names were Vic Darchinyan and Anselmo Moreno. Good names, but not really great ones. Or like Klitschko. Well, he fought the guys willing to get in the ring with him. Povetkin was good even if the way that he fought him was rotten.

    Also, Loma has my respect for wanting to start at the championship level, but with 400 amateur fights and a couple of Olympic gold medals he didn't need the lower bar. He was already experienced. You can't put a guy like that against actual prodigies like Wilfred Benitez or Tony Canzoneri who captured world titles in their teens or even guys like Pacquiao, Duran, Chavez, who had two dozen amateur matches turned pro and captured titles at 19, 21, and 22 respectively.
     
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  2. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a shame Chocolatito is so small and there is no real money in those lower weight divisions.

    Imagine Chocolatito being at 140lbs or so. It would have been a marvel to watch.
     
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  3. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I remember the exact thing being said about FInito Lopez. Lopez's biggest purse was 50K, Choco should consider himself lucky that he makes purses 10X that.
     
  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    It used to make me so sad to see his purses. He was fighting in his third weight class with ten title fights against name opponents for like 100K.
     
  5. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    How can you slag Canelo a former 154 who jumped up to 175 and then suck on GGG's nuts who's a career 160 and never moved up ?
     
  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    That's abominably true, but Finito didn't fight 1/10th the competition Chocolatito did either.
     
  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    1) Because he clearly beat Canelo twice.
    2) Because Canelo got every fight that he wanted while GGG was avoided, iced out, had to live on table scraps for most of his career when he was clearly one of the greatest boxers of his era. Canelo has been overcompensated for his talent while GGG was robbed and underappreciated.
     
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  8. Floyd #1

    Floyd #1 Member Full Member

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    No one cares about anything except money these days anyway
     
  9. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Imagine if usyk vs canelo at cruiser or heavy. That be canelos retirement party
     
  10. Snails

    Snails Active Member Full Member

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    I agree with Clen for once no other fighter would dare fight Avni Yildrim.
     
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  11. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Me A-side fighter, never ask for short preparation, never received home town decisions.

    Bivol needs to beat you 12-0 to get a 115-113 win, we all know why you are so successful.

    See you next Tuesday.
     
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  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Canelo gives GGG a savage beating in September, he can reclaim his spot as the best fighter in the world. Besides the disputed loss to Canelo in 2018, GGG has never been beaten in his entire career, he's never even been knocked down. So GGG has never been convincingly beaten. If Canelo hurts GGG, if Canelo beats him convincingly this time, no one's ever done that to GGG before. Now some would say GGG is 40 years old, but on the flipside look what GGG just did at 40 to Murata.

    If Canelo beats GGG, even narrowly, but then GGG returns to Middleweight to defend his titles successfully, vs a Lara or a Munguia, then that would prove that GGG is still damn good at 40 / 41 years old. So even though GGG is 40 and many are expecting Canelo to win, there's still a lot to gain for Canelo here, a win over GGG can help Canelo reclaim his spot as the best in the sport if he does something to do GGG that's never been done to GGG before. If GGG takes a beating against Canelo (and that's a very big IF) and then goes back down and continues to defend his titles at Middleweight successfully after that, then it would only show how great Canelo was for beating GGG who at 40 is still a hell of a fighter and arguably a better win than any one of the other guys the P4P guys are fighting.

    Point is, even at 40, Canelo beating GGG, even if it's a narrow / disputed decision again, is still a monumental win. Is still the kind of a win that would put him back at the top of the sport, especially if it's more convincing than his win 4 years ago was. Nobody besides Canelo has ever beaten GGG, if Canelo beats him again, then he would be Undefeated vs GGG in 3 fights and the only man to ever beat him and he would have done it 2x which is arguably better than any wins anyone on the P4P would have.
     
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Chocolatito has never lost by a robbery.
     
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  14. PH|LLA

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    His logic is not wrong but personally I still think Crawford is the best despite his insane inactivity.
     
  15. drenlou

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    His third loss against Estrada i think was a close lost that could have gone either way. Peraonally i had it 115-113 Gonzalez.