Canelo Alvarez is looking scary, he is knocking GGG out!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MVC!, Aug 28, 2017.


  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol I got you wrong you wrong with Broner but you got me wrong with Floyd MVC,why on earth did you presume I'm no Mayweather fan,ever since he beat Oscar he's been my fav boxer and what he did to Canelo was insanely good.
    You still haven't answered how you work out that Canelo KOs GGG,is it based on his career or recent training vids?
     
  2. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Judging from what you said about Canelo for the last few months, why would I ever assume you fancy the sweet science?

    Just someone who is very subjective. That's all.

    What's there to explain? I already explained it, accumulated damage, he drops GGG 2-3 times then the ref waves it off. I see a lot of inside fighting with Canelo bombing him with uppercuts.

    GGG's head movement is very very subpar, that's just what it is!
     
  3. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well I do think unlike against Jacobs where there was barely a mark on GGG,Canelo will put some damage on him and he will look marked up but I just don't see the knock out as it would be something new for Canelo,in the build up vids all they can dig up is Amir Khan and Kirkland and Smith which I thought the most impressive.
    I don't actually hate Canelo at all and I never had him the ducking type but as for Catchweights and fighting smaller men I just don't like it and it's no surprise that Canelos best fights have all been 50/50 jobs against Lara,Trout and re Floyd it was Canelo who was coming down but against a far smaller opponent anyway.
     
  4. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not saying this is your opinion but I see a trend recently from some who think that an elite pro boxer shouldn't get hit which is just nonsense as pro boxing is more hurt without getting hurt,the minute someone shows me GGG hurt,wobbled from getting hit then I'd have to agree but up until now that's never been the case
     
  5. IsaL

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    GGG beat a WW at 160 without a CW, I think Canelo fighting a WW at 155 is a lot more fair than what GGG did with Brook.

    As far as the titles, most fans could give two shits about those MW titles. The Canelo-Cotto fight was what the fans wanted, not necessarily the Canelo-MW fight.. Do you understand that? The Canelo-Cotto fight was talked about and fans wanted it long before Cotto moved up and beat the **** out of Martinez and Geale.

    GBP had contacted Cotto long before Cotto moved up to MW for a fight with Canelo, but Cotto declined to fight Canelo at that time.

    BY the time Cotto accepted the fight with Canelo he was already the MW and the Ring and Lineal Champion. The fight wasn't in high demand because Cotto was a MW champion, the fight was in high demand because it was years in the making, and fans were craving it since the Jr.MW days... it ended up being a very successful PPV fight. It was fought at 155 at Cotto's request. That was Nov. 2015. 7 months later in May 2016, Canelo had an excellent showing against Amir Khan, a fight he could have gone without but definitely enhanced his marketability in EU, specifically England, a huge boxing country. Immediately after the Khan fight ODLH is quoted in the media saying that Canelo-GGG would happen on Sept. 16, 2017, and would continue to tell us that it would happen on that date, it was no secret, nor was it a surprise to any logical fan that the fight actually did get made for that date.

    ODLH having decided on the date for the Canelo-GGG fight has two more dates where Canelo will fight, Sept 2016, and May 2017. IMO Oscar chose Liam Smith for two reasons, 1. It would once again put Canelo's face in EU, more specifically British media, helping with his crossover into Europe, and 2. more importantly it positioned Canelo to have more pull at MW. With Canelo winning the WBO title it put a roadblock for Golovkin's attempt to fight BJ Saunders giving Canelo more bargaining chips. Immediately after the Liam Smith fight Canelo stated Smith was his last fight at JrMW, meaning he was now a MW, and moving up to MW while holding the WBO SWW title would place Canelo as the mandatory for the MW WBO title, very smart move by GBP.

    The JCC Jr fight was a clear obvious, it was a fight 6 years in the making, Mexican fans yearned for it, and the PPV and live gate proved it was a great decision by Canelo and GBP.

    Sept 16 2017 is right around the corner and the fight is going to happen just like ODLH had promised back in May 2016.

    Side note: ODLH was encouraging GGG to continue to grow as a star by promoting himself, since then GGG has become more of a household name, and GBP, and Oscar himself were helping to promote GGG as a fighter on social media even when GGG's fights weren't GBP affiliated.

    So all your crying about Canelo ducking (avoiding) GGG is complete rubbish, you're too dense to see what is really happening. You take a bias side and swallow hook line a sinker an run with it.. You fall for the hype so easily, you're so gullible.
     
  6. IsaL

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    Please make a thread so I can refute it the way I refuted CST80's.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You're right he did, because CEJ pulled out of the fight at the last minute, and he needed a quick replacement, and guess what, I wasn't thrilled about the fight and run around here like a delusional fanboy praising it and talking up Brook's chances, and I say that as a big fan of Brook's as well, I said unlike Khan he's got the frame to successfully move up, but never gave him even close to a chance of winning. GGG himself would probably readily admit that that was a pitiful opponent.

    Cotto didn't move up, he stayed around the same weight and drug them down, and Martinez was a gimp, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?

    The rest of this **** is just more filibustering, I didn't ask you to write a long dull diatribe like that.

    I asked you what you would have said if GGG fought Khan, Smith and Chavez Jr. in succession, hell what would you have said if he'd face Cotto? We all know what you'd have done, tear down GGG with your every post. So you couldn't cut the bull**** could you? More obfuscating, more conjecture, more bull****. I don't care I don't discuss garbage like this, because politics of the sport means very little to me, yeah De La Hoya was dragging it out and building towards it, milking it, trying to build hype, no ****, no one is denying that, but its not like he's thrilled by the idea of Canelo getting in the ring with GGG, they didn't need this long build up to the Cotto and Mayweather fights, they jumped at the opportunity.

    The point is, in the interim, Canelo should have been up at MW taking on the Saunder's, Eubank's (if he wants UK exposure), N'Dam's, Lemieux's Murata's, instead of dragging up Amir Khan.
     
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  8. Manfred

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    Have you seen GGG, he looks the same way.
     
  9. Manfred

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    I actually liked that post 80, Well stated.
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Thank you Manfred, much appreciated.:thumbsup:
     
  11. kirk

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    Canelo looking primed out. Straight up beast status. Peaking at just the right time.

    G is looking stiff and soft to me. Not sure whats up with him... they say this is just another fight well thats a mistake. I expected G to look better for the biggest and hardest fight of his career.
     
  12. kirk

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    Canelo is looking very tankish... if his stamina hasnt been slowly improving to a borderline non issue id be worried that frame and xtra weight might tire him but theyve done a great job fixing that. Its impressive though that he can carry that frame so well.
     
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  13. deltrotter

    deltrotter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    PMSL and this guy has the cheek to call anyone a Neeewwbb
    gone from 1-2 times to 2-3 lmao
    If anything is subpar its MVC's opinion
     
  14. qwertyblahblah

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    I don't really like Canelo's look either for a boxer. He looks too thick and musclebound. He should be as light and lean as possible, because that what his strengths in this fight have to be. I guess that's just his body type, and what he's going to look like if he doesn't have to cut weight.

    His training looks good though. That he's using the pool noodles so much should suggest he's training for speed and timing. He's definitely focused on a deliberate countering game plan.

    But that hand speed and upper body timing is not going to be enough to win the fight! If you don't have the foot speed to use the whole ring to stay away from GGG and keep him from being set he won't have much of a problem landing. Even if Canelo edges early rounds GGG will be touching Canelo. Then GGG with the better footwork will be the one finding punching room, outjabbing Canelo, and with each round he'll land more and harder, and be mounting more and more pressure to keep Canelo on the defensive and sure not in a position to counter. I just cannot see Canelo standing in front of Golovkin and countering him for 12 rounds, and we know he doesn't have the physique or style to stay away from him.
     
  15. rhin0z>

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    gstring has developed a habit of getting punched square in the face to make big drama show or so he says, I think he has poor defense and is about to get a serious chin check. I see clownelo being patient and smart enough to take advantage of the opportunities that gstring will give him and gstring has no problem following clownelo around the ring face first. gstring is going to pay for some bad habits he has developed.