Canelo Alvarez Is The Most Gifted Fighter Ever...

90% is a number that you made up from highly suspect anecdotal evidence. That is not a remotely accurate figure.

The vast majority saw the Canelo GGG rematch as a fight that could be scored in favor of either fighter. Only idiots with an axe to grind with Canelo like Teddy Atlas and Paulie Maliganngi had the fight as a clear no-doubt-about-it win for GGG.

Yes the vast majority of the media once again scored the bout in favor of Golovkin, however unlike the first fight, the vast majority of current and former boxers had Canelo winning the rematch. The first fight had your Deontay Wilder, your Floyd Mayweather Sr, your Sergio Mora saying Canelo won, but this time around we had Andre Ward, Errol Spence, and Charlo cornering Stephen A Smith after the fight and telling him why Canelo won. Further, unlike the first fight, a much higher % of fans, including polls on boxing forum 24, had Canelo winning the rematch or the fight being a draw than the first fight.

The dynamics that exist between the GGG fanbase and the Canelo fanbase are such that create false perceptions that are not even close to reality. One of these factors is the language barrier. We have a large percentage of the boxing fan population that is spanish speaking and is not being accounted for in the polls that you base your %s on. Further, many people believe that since Gennady was the undefeated champion, that Canelo had to do more than just beat Gennady to deserve victory.

There are other factors too that contribute to why the vast majority of media (which really is only a hundred or so people and these people are mostly casuals so it's hardly a group of people that you can conclude anything from) had GGG winning. You had the clenbuterol situation, you had the feeling going into the rematch that GGG was robbed in the first fight because of the Byrd scorecard, you had the expectation that Canelo wasn't going to go toe-to-toe with GGG in the rematch because well he didn't do that in the first fight, and the feeling was if Canelo did that he was going to get knocked out or hurt badly, and when he did that and that didn't happen they had no idea how to score such a fight since we've never seen anybody take the fight to GGG like that before.

What we have is people's expectations and perceptions running wild, you have english speaking GGG fans outnumbering english speaking Canelo fans on boxing websites which result in polls that favor GGG winning.

We all know what we saw in the two fights. Any reasonable boxing fan knows both fights were extremely close and can be debated forever as far as who deserved to win or who is the better fighter. For you to act like both fights were robberies / clear GGG wins is frankly insulting to the neutral boxing fan or anyone that isn't heavily invested in one fighter or the other.

That said, Canelo won the rematch and there's plenty of reputable people connected to the sport who concur with that view. That said, I don't begrudge anyone who thinks GGG won, wanna know why? This is boxing. I mean every single fight nowadays is called a robbery. Look at AJ Povetkin, we have people thinking the scoring was whack in that fight too, thinking Povetkin was winning when AJ was winning 5-1 or whatever. This happens with pretty much every main event fight these days where there's complaining about the judging.

So you can carry on crying about the decision or acting like it was a robbery all you want, but it comes across as delusional when anyone can see clear as day how close and debatable both fights were.

 

Get a GF, or a hooker. You're nearing creepy.

 

Very well said!

 

It was actually his birthday last Sept. 15th that's why Oscar DelaFisheynet and 3 judges gave him GIFTS !

 

Canelo has the bestest haters.

 

90 percent of the trainers and boxers that picked Canelo are either Mexicans, or are allied to team money may and Golden Boy, those two groups are horribly biased for Canelo.

Impartial observers are better than those.

 

You all know why canelo always got gifted decisions. De La Hoya and Sulaiman are the answers.

 

well then you can call out the exaggerations about GGG winning or being robbed. we need to establish as a consensus norm that the calling of the rematch a robbery or using polls or other metrics like media scores is not relevant to who really won. you know what you saw in the fight. you don't need a media score to tell you who won. fans with a strong argument or belief that their fighter won would not need to rely on media scores. media people don't know anything more then you know, in fact many in the sports media who cover other sports only cover big boxing fights so they might be experts in other sports but they are not experts in boxing. many in the media even those who are involved in boxing often subscribe to a groupthink mentality that clouds their view of major boxing events.

 

Media scorecards are the most reliable since they dont benefit from favoring anyone.

Canelo perdio contra Golovkin. Perdon mi hijo.

 

Would you trust someone in the media's scorecard over your own ?

 

The best judges are the fans, because there's one thing that's certain. Fans, no mater who their favourite fighter is, hate robberies, I've not seen one fan who thinks thinks otherwise. So if one guy legitimately wins, nobody's going to complain about it.

Also, the fans out of all parties have the least agendas. The only bias that most fans will have is either because they like the fighter better, or there's some national/racial aspect to fuel their bias. That's it.

Now fighters, trainers, judges, media they have other influences, such as being under or connected to the promotional company, perhaps they know the fighter personally, in the case of media perhaps it is economcially beneficial to support a specific fighter. The list goes on.

 

So Daniel Jacobs beat Golovkin?

 

Last I checked the consensus was that GGG beat Jacobs.

 

Who did you have as winner of the DLH-Mosley 2 fight?

That's all you have to know about media scorecards.

 

Why brother having judges then? Boxing should adopt American Idol style judging.