canelo alvarez looking smaller already!?!?

the boxing voice used to hate on golovkin but don't hate as much now lol

 

Wow--as usual you covered a lot of ground so I will try to counter where I disagree--and note where we agree--

First you bring up the Byrd card and compare SRL/Hagler. We've been over this before so I will add my usual counter. Show me the previous 4 BIG fights that were considered close with SRL but there was one scorecard not in line with the others. I call it a pattern. There is one with Canelo's previous 4 BIG fights. Cotto, Trout, Lara, and Mayweather all had one card completely out of line with the others and the general concensus. It is this reason I and many other GGG fans felt GGG would not get a fair shake with the judges. And here you are again defending such a horrible card. There are only 2 explainations for that card. Byrd is a horrible judge or she was paid off. The Lara, Cotto, Mayweather, and Trout fights all had one card out of line as well. Its a pattern. You can give your opinion all you want--but it is a noticeable pattern now in Canelo fights. I'm not claiming Canelo/GB bought these judges. All I am suggesting is there is a pattern.

You are claiming a "fact" that Canelo outboxed GGG. How is that a "FACT"? That is merely your opinion. I agree it was a close fight. I agree that Canelo landed big punches and probably the single biggest punch of the fight (9th rd). I have even gone so far to say I could even see scoring the fight 7-5 to either fighter. But 10-2? That is absurd by any standard.

The hand wrap complaint is BS by GGG's team if in fact the wraps are legal in NV as has been suggested. I am not an expert in wraps state by state and don't claim to be. I would advise GGG to be 100% clear on the wraps in the state they are fighting and use that to their advantage as well.

The failed test should have been accepted as "obvious" meat contamination??? Obvious to who exactly? And why did Golden Boy shorten the expert Dick Eichner's final sentence of his statement? His FULL statement was "These values are all within the range of what is expected from meat contamination. FURTHER INVESTIGATION IS NEEDED TO MAKE A FINAL DETERMINATION" Why did Golden Boy leave out the last sentence? If it is "obvious" as you claim, what specific investigation took place to make it so obvious? What data was supplied by Eichner to support his claim? I have not seen ANY expert say it is "obvious". Why was the first failed test 10 times higher then the 2nd? What is a FACT is that Canelo popped twice for a banned substance and the NSAC commision followed their rules and suspended Canelo. ANY other out come would have been viewed as bending their rules for Canelo. Canelo is responsible however it got in his body. End of story. How it got in his body doesn't matter the way I understand the updated NSAC rules. You are now claiming it was "obvious" from the meat. I personally think Canelo was using but I am not 100% sure. You can't either.

I believe it was suggested by GGG's camp the rematch should have taken place even sooner. Why didn't it? Was it Canelo's side that wanted it in May instead of DEC/JAN time frame?

 

Teddy Atlas lost his job for a while for similar comments about how is he was able to predict that there’d be some nefarious scoring in the fight,how is it we all knew that?cause to be sure I’d say Boxing is very difficult to predict the outcome to the point where I wonder if it’s best if I keep my mouth shut lol.
Canelo on the other hand is very easy to predict as the pattern suggests that it doesn’t matter how badly he fares or how well he does cause it’s set in stone that there’ll always be one very wide scorecard which negates him losing,now that is a fact and that’s without mentioning the Amir Khan scorecard as well.
Cut a long story short Stephen Smith just felt it was ineptitude from Byrd and that Gennady won by a few rounds but understood if you had it a draw but he said no way was a 118/110 fight for Canelo.
Atlas in the studio at the same time was going into meltdown and wearing his heart on his sleeve said that it was corruption and even gave examples of past corruption stuff but which everyone hides from.

Tainted meat is nothing new so are we to believe Fury on his tainted boar meat?

 

I agree--I am not saying for 100% fact that a judge was paid off--but what I am saying is that there is a pattern and it has happened in Canelos last 5 BIG fights.

 

You'd think if they paid off a judge that they'll tell them to keep it close but a few close rounds go to their guy.. If you win by 8 rounds or just 1 round you still win..

 

That’s a good point which would leave us with incompetence though there is a thought that Byrd’s dreadful scorecard was there to draw the eye away from the other one lol.
I don’t claim to know either but my problem with just putting it down to over zealous scoring is that one Mayweather card as that in it self was as bad as the Byrd Card and let’s be honest Boxing hasn’t got a good track record with regards to corruption with the mob and the sums of money going on it.
One thing about the ridiculous nature of each scorecard is that if it was corrupt they were leaving no doubt as to who won it lol

 

I'm no arithmetic scholar, but I'm pretty ****ing sure if anyone was trying to rig a fight he would buy at least "two" mother****ing judges, not one.

Perhaps I'm missing something. Can you kindly explain why You feel GBP buys off only a single judge per fight?

Now, here's my take while I wait for yours, but perhaps boxing being as subjective as it is, just maybe judges see and score fights from different perspectives, perhaps that's the reason boxing has not one, not two, but three judges...? Maybe??

But maybe you have a more logical explanation for your "theory" that GB buys off a single judge for each of his fights.

 

That theory is always good for a laugh.

And it seems that a lot of morons buy into that conspiracy.

 

Have you heard it? I haven't. I've asked for an explanation on why they believe GB only pays a single judge off but I've never gotten a response.

 

And you never will. I asked the very same thing after the first fight and those posters would conveniently disappear for a while.

 

Maybe you arent a reading scholar either? I specifically said Im not saying 100% fact judges are being bought, i am saying there is a pattern of one card that just doesnt seem to fit.

 

Im not.. So can you explain why you and the GGGoon patrol consistently claim and or play with the idea that GB would pay off a single judge? Makes zero ****ing sense so why even consider it or bring it up.

You know what I think when I see a single contrasting score card in a fight.. The judge saw it different or the judge is inept. That's what people without an agenda think.

People with an agenda start making baseless conspiracy theories.

So if you're not saying your conspiracy theory of a single judge is being bought off is 100% then what are you saying? That its 75, 50, 25%?

Makes no sense to pay off a single judge, zero.

 

Awesome--then we agree--my quote from my long reply:
There are only 2 explainations for that card. Byrd is a horrible judge or she was paid off.

So if it is inept judging as you and I seem to agree, then how can anyone defend it?

 

Lol Isal I have to agree with you for once,I’m sure you’re right about em buying two judges off now come to think of it

 

Which would be even more stupid. But your sarcasm is duly noted.