canelo alvarez looking smaller already!?!?

I’ve long said that he’s the best most pro weight cutter in the business.
There’s been a load of amateur boxers getting popped lately for the same drugs,the pros will have the best docs in their ears about using and avoiding tests.

 

Given the known contaminated meat problem in Mexico + the trace amounts Canelo tested positive for + the fact that other Mexican fighters tested positive in the past for far less amount in the cases of Nery & Vargas and it was accepted as contaminated meat and they got no punishment, given all that, it's obvious that it was most likely due to meat contamination.

That said, we can never rule out anything 100%, but given what we know, without any proof that he did in fact take clenbuterol intentionally in pharmacological form, we cannot conclude that he did in fact "use" and I really have to question anyone that concludes or believes that without having any data to suggest that.

Just based upon everything we know about the situation with contaminated meat, that's the obvious "safe" guess as to what happened. Meaning to conclude otherwise you'd really have to have reasons to make that assessment that you don't have.

And again, just because Canelo may have known about meat contamination being an issue, it's hard to say that he was either stupid or arrogant for eating meat. We don't know what exactly he ate that caused the issue, so calling him arrogant or stupid is really reaching and just assuming that he wasn't eating what was presented to him as quality food. The farthest I can go is to say he "probably should have been more careful".

 

If you're an athlete at this level you need to be very careful with what you eat. Povetkin got done in with the most minute quantity of some heart medicine and there was no mercy.

 

Apparently the rulings aren't very clear on this matter, but here is an article looking further into this matter:

http://ucnlive.com/stacking-deck-las-vegas/

 

And yet he will still beat him.

 

Thanks for the link,as I thought,it’s not gonna make GGG go for tit for tat.
Liam Smiths team also had words about stacking with Canelo and team and Canelo did look a tad embarrassed as he ought to.

 

Meldonium. And you know what this story was really about? Punishing the Russians and letting Big Pharma control the drug market. Meldonium is manufactured in Latvia by Grindek and was developed and licensed originally in Russia. Meldonium would have almost no impact on the athlete. It is used for people with heart problems and improves blood flow. Caffeine would probably do more for performance. Look at what they did to Sharapova in tennis and most of the Russian Olympic athletes. Russia and Big Pharma.

 

I can well believe that

 

I hope so, but it’s just sad the fight did not happed in 2014-15

 

How do you figure it is sad? What kind of logic are using to come up with this thought?

 

Because it wouldn’t have gone to scorecards . GGG would have stopped Clenelo a few years ago

 

We are so far apart on this. I think he used. But that is also based on my own feeling that at one point most elite athletes use. But I don't hold the position as "obvious" as you do. Of course it could be from the meat. But I'd like to know ow what investigation there was into it that the expert suggested? What specific data was he speaking from when he said it was within the range.

Why did Canelo agree to a deal before the hearing even started? Was there an actual investigation that made the meat story less likely so therefore they didn't want that out?

Why did Golden boy intentionally leave off the expert's last sentence in their press release about needing an investigation?

Let's assume you are correct. Let's assume we know 100% for a fact it was meat. If that the case then it was stupid. He went out to dinner with friends/family and it literally cost him millions of dollars. But not only did it cost him millions, it will now stain his rep and there will always be questions about whether he cheated or not. I don't like Canelo, but I've never accused him of being a dirty fighter or disrespting the sport or his opponents.

The evidence you cite above is ancedotal or circumstantial at best. It means the meat is one way it could have gotten into his system. It does not mean it's the obvious way it got into his system.

The way I understand it, the range of his first failed test was way out of range for tainted meat. It was 10x higher then the 2nd test.
I'm not sure how old you are, but maybe you remember Canseco from Baseball. He was a laughingstock when he outed all the top stars for PeD use. Sourgrapes is what they said. Turned out he was right. Its not too far of a reach to think a professional athlete will use a banned substance to increase his performance when literally millions are at stake.
I believe he used. Just like I believe Mayweather did, Paq did. And I believe AJ and Wilder use.

 

You do realize that Canelo won the WBC and Ring MW title in Nov. 2015?

 

And do you realize that I’m not talking about what and when he won? All I’m saying is that clenelo fought past prime GGG and lost on points , if he would have fought GGG a few years ago he would have lost by a KO.

 

Sooo.. What's your point? JrMW Canelo loses to MW Golovkin... That may very well be a possibility.

But based on their last fight, GGG isn't KO Canelo, especially not the slick Canelo that fought Trout back in 2014. GGG landed two whole good punches in 12 rounds. Really, he's supposed to KO Canelo had they fought in 2014? Lol

Nuthuggery at its finest.