I asked you a question. Who was the best person he beat? I think that person is Kalule, who, ironically, wouldn't have any notable wins if not for having beaten Kalambay. He is pretty much only referred to as "phenomenal" in England. I have more respect for someone like Keith Holmes who actually became a champion and had none of the hype to fuel his career.
How about Lindell Holmes future World Champion ? That just showed me you really don't know what your talking about. How about losing a split decision to MCcallum and because of a point deduction ! You know the same MCcallum that beat Watson and held Toney to a draw. He lost because he spun Mike around!! Then have you ever seen the 2nd Kalambay fight? Horrible decison. Graham got robbed.
Statistics never tell you the full story. You have to have knowledge of a guys career. Keith Holmes was a good fighter. Holmes is a fighter who very rarely gets mentioned on here. I’ve been a member for years, yet have honestly only ever seen a few threads discussing his career. I can remember when he beat Richie Woodhall. I can remember watching it on Sky in the U.K. Holmes was very likeable and again, he had good ability. But you have to say that he had an easy route to a world title. Make no mistake, Herol Graham was a world class fighter. And he was desperately unlucky not to win a title. How many MW’s have to fight guys of the calibre of peak versions of Mike McCallum, Sumbu Kalambay and Julian Jackson to get a shot at a title? Not many. Holmes holding a title and Graham falling short, doesn’t mean that Holmes was the better fighter. Go and watch the McCallum fight. Under different circumstances, Graham would absolutely have been a world champion. He was better than Lara and guys like David Lemieux who managed to pick up a strap. Just demanding to know of his best win is ignorant. If you analyse his career, you will see how gifted he was.
Great post. These guys just go on Boxrec. Herol was desperately unlucky. He could have beaten Kalambay and gotten a draw or beaten Mike.
Its funny Graham was avoided by alot of people especially in his country. Kaylor tried him and got outclassed. Douglas as well. Also holds a win over Sanderline Williams who held Toney to a draw first time.
So if you're gonna fan out on Lindell Holmes, who strung a few wins together half a decade after losing to Graham, and mark it as his best win and claim that Graham deserved to beat Kalambay twice, then certainly you've got to have Canelo beating Kalambay. Canelo actually has a great win column after all.
Holmes was an outstanding fighter and sparred alot at Kronk. He could hold his own with most. He was world class boxer for a long time not to mention a champion.
Graham camped out in England. There were plenty of weak 154 champs during his time. Jackson had his limits too.
Canelo could have beaten Kalambay. But as always, you’re looking at how they would have matched up stylistically. If you’re not, you should be. Why is saying that Graham should have beaten Kalambay, mean that Canelo should have been favoured over him? You couldn’t have made Canelo the favourite just on the grounds that he holds the better wins. You’re talking about two completely different fights.
I'm implying that Caenlo is superior to Graham and whoever he beat, but I don't think he actually beat Kalambay.
I scored it for 1 point for Kalambay, but it should've been a draw because the 12th round deduction against Graham was inexcusably bad. Notes: 1. I scored the round with the knockdowns 10-8 and not 10-7, because the first knockdown was only a flash KD. This is how I score these situations and it's okay to do that with 10 point must; it's not personal bias. 2. The commentary was biased in Graham's favor. Kalambay swung some rounds by teeing off with a two or three clean haymakers that the commentators brushed off. 3. Kalambay was lethargic and worse than normal I don't see Graham as a guy who would rule 154 today or beat prime Lara. I think Jermell would knock him out and Lubin would beat him. Castano, J Rock, Hurd, and Harrison would all be pretty close odds. I think he'd probably beat prime Trout due to Trout's lack of power.
