Canelo and Crawford leave PBC

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  1. Eclipse

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    Not having the biggest fight not even on the contract is relevant? Its most relevant. Since you are being evasive I will explain it.

    The only plausible reason why Benavidez was not named on the contract was because Canelo didn't want it. The reason why PBC accepted was because it was the only way to get Canelo to sign and was better than losing him, and they probably thought public pressure would push Canelo to fight him last possibly. You seem to underestimate the leverage the cash cow of boxing has.
     
  2. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's irrelevant as to why the name wasn't on the list.

    If what you are saying is to be believed then it looks even more ridiculous as PBC signed Canelo for 3 fights and then still managed to lose him after only 1 fight after agreeing to Canelo's terms.

    It matters not which way you shake it the only party that looks like losers here is PBC.

    The idea that PBC out of choice would have been happy to see the biggest star in the sport walk away mid contract is laughable.
     
  3. sdot_thadon

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    So you mean to tell me all this time the "biggest fight" in boxing wasn't even in Haymon's plans to this point? Wow.
     
  4. steviebruno

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    Contracts are two-sided and are made to benefit both parties. Canelo had an obligation to try and make his investors money and he intentionally avoided the most profitable option.

    Canelo essentially committed breach of contract -aided by the WBC- thereby voiding his agreement with PBC.
     
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  5. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haha. No fighter gives a damn if a promoter makes money on a show. A promoter agrees to pay a purse and then must pay that purse in full. How he manages to do that isnt the fighters concern.

    PBC agreed to pay Canelo and then failed to pay him as per the agreement. That is a PBC problem and fcuk all to do with Canelo.
     
  6. steviebruno

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    Haha? Do you think that the contract was signed only to benefit Canelo?

    What would be the point of that?

    PBC was just as free to end the agreement as Canelo was, and so they have parted ways. PBC is now free of paying Canelo 35 million for trash fights, and Canelo can get someone else to pay him.

    Why you feel this vindicates Canelo in some way, I am not sure.
     
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  7. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well done PBC to losing the biggest star in the sport and can now move on with all the other stars they have.

    Get real. This is not a good look for PBC no matter how hard you want to try and turn it into win.
     
  8. IsaL

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    That's a ridiculous comment.

    A contract is a legal binding agreement, enforceable by law.

    PBC can't drop Canelo without fulfilling their end of the contract.

    Canelo can walk away if PBC can't fulfill their end of the contract.
     
  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    They are the next GPB.
    They will have a home on Amazon as GBP does on DAZN. They will have a handful of big stars like GBP, but both will mainly put on mediocre cards with relatively unknown guys.
    TR on ESPN is also going down. Most of their headliners are filled with guys who simply are not popular. And the ratings show it.
     
  10. steviebruno

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    Looks like they found a way out, no? All they had to do was mention the name David Benavidez.
     
  11. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Once in a blue moon.
    In 2023 the genuinely big cards were:
    Ryan Garcia-Tank Davis
    Munguia-Derevyanchenko
    Garcia-Duarte
    Ramirez-Smith Jr.

    Those are HBO World Championship Boxing tier cards/main events. Everything else GBP puts on is either Boxing After Dark or smaller.
    GBP is really struggling. They have very few stars and rarely put together a big card.
    Heck, if it weren´t for Ryan Garcia, they wouldn´t even be in the PPV business.
     
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  12. steviebruno

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    Canelo is a fading star in the retirement tour phase of his career who was actually costing them money.
     
  13. 941Jeremy

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    PBC would have been fools to pay a 35 million guarantee for a Charlo fight. It was guaranteed to lose millions but they were still willing to do so if they were assured by Canelo that they'd be able to put themselves in a position to reimburse which would have happened in a Benavidez fight which would have been the biggest fight in boxing.
    It's no more of a bad look for PBC than it was for Golden Boy when Canelo refused a trilogy fight with GGG and opted to walk instead. He was signed to a 10 fight deal for a record breaking amount but it didn't mandate GGG , Canelo is very shrewd and has no care in the world if his contracts cripple his promoter its just who he is and what he does. Canelo won't be dictated by anyone and that's that.
     
  14. Pimp C

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    Good I had no interest in the charlo fight anyway he's done. Will be interesting in seeing who Crawford fights next though.
     
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  15. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your posts on this thread remind me of people who supported HBO allowing Floyd Mayweather to walk. Yes, it's possible that PBC will benefit directly from not fronting these huge purses for Canelo while *also* being true that PBC's brand will suffer broader damage as a result.

    That was the issue for HBO. They couldn't replace Mayweather with anyone else and it was the beginning of the end for the network's boxing presence.