Canelo and Crawford should not be in top 10 pound for pound list.

You do realize that many fighters fight a pound above the weight limit in none-title fights, right?

And before you mention the three title fights he had at 152, and 155 twice, in was his opponents who demanded those weights.

 

I agree, but the same "crowd" will not.

 

@Quina74 We've heard the kind of crybaby stuff you're talking about countless times before. Attempts like yours to discredit Canelo's wins and make them sound bad is very played out and reeks of being butthurt about the beatings Canelo put on GGG.

Nothing you say will undo what happened to GGG at ths hands of Canelo. GGG got wrecked by Saul Alvarez. G looked like he been in a car crash after that rematch lol.

 

You're talking to Mr. Objective, that's me. Rounds 11 and 12 in the rematch were pretty much toss ups. GGG started round 11 well but down the stretch Canelo was landing clean with regularity and just outworking GGG and walking him down. I gave GGG the 12th, but either of those rounds could be flipped. To give GGG both the last 2 rounds would be fanboy scoring. Canelo won 5 out of the first 7 rounds pretty clearly, GGG only won rounds 1 and 4. GGG would have had to win all of the last 5 rounds to win 7-5 and that didn't happen. Any unbiased scorer would split rounds 8 and 9, give GGG round 10 and split rounds 11 and 12.

 

GGG got his ass beaten by Canelo in the rematch and needed a gift over Derveynachenko. Jacobs fight could have gone either way. He shouldn’t be on anyone’s p4p list.

 

Which active fighter besides Pacquiao has a better resume? Canelos resume is light years ahead of other guys I see routinely placed in the top 5... Inoue, Usyk etc

 

Neither fighter won either round clearly. They both were close. I gave Canelo the 11th and GGG the 12th. Sue me.

 

You can make the argument that GGG landed more clean shots in the 12th but in the 11th I would argue the opposite that Canelo was the one landing more clean shots and landed the much harder cleaner power punches. And really the shots that Canelo landed in the 11th down the stretch were very impressive which is why I gave that round to Canelo.

In the 12th Canelo landed a lot more power punches than GGG did but I agree GGG landed the cleaner shots in the 12th even if he was outworked. and Canelo's power punches in the 12th weren't as clean or as impactful as they were in the 11th, that's why I gave the 11th to Canelo and the 12th to GGG. Make sense? Canelo clearly outworked him in terms of power punching in the 12th but his punches didn't seem to be as effective as they were in the 11th and GGG showcased some boxing skill in the round and when you have 2 close rounds back to back it's a good rule of thumb to split the rounds rather than score two close hard to score rounds to the same fighter. Judges do this all the time.

 

@Quina74 your breakdown is kinda bias bro now I will agree that that one odd card is annoying but overall the actual result of the fights were correct,

going back to Trout originally I had it a close fight that was made closer due to open scoring having Canelo up after the knockdown, but after a recent rewatch Trout won 4 rounds maybe got dropped and dominated you have a better argument for trout vs Charlo’s than Canelo

speaking on Lara that boy RAN I love good boxing but even PROS who scored for Lara said It was 50/50 and that Lara ran, my card was 7-5 thought Lara started good got caught with a body shot early and started playing track and tag, pitty pat jabs used just to tough your opponent don’t win fights Lara got his body beat down and even still was given credit with a SD which was an accurate reflection of the fight acting like Lara dominated is a damn lie.

lastly GGG he lost y’all need to stop crying in fight I he fought the fight of his life swept all the middle rounds and still ended up with a draw in both fights GGG lost rounds 10-12 we can debate but I’ve done that before. In fight I Canelo outboxed GGG in the opening rounds gassed then closed strong and got a draw, in fight II Canelo took it too GGG sand dominated in some of the rounds your talking about like 12 specifically GGG had a good 20secs where he landed a good combo then proceeded to get beaten down the entire rest of the round outside of maybe last 10secodn 2 good flurries in a round don’t win you the round especially when your opponent is landing leather and lighting you up.

not to mention GGG was Canelobfirst real fight at MW fighting the (#1) fighter and unified champ got a draw and a gritty dominating win..
Y’all sound silly even Kovalev y’all realize that Kovalev was a top 3 LHW Champ almost 3 fights removed from being undisputed at LHW EVERYBODY feels Kovalev was jobbed vs Ward in fight I and was winning again until low lows in fight IIbyet that fight is brought up to somehow say he’s shot. There is no other fighter fighting at 160 right now that would be picked to beat Kovalev

 

Well that makes two of us, as I'm quite baffled by your interpretation of Canelo's career thus far, how he fought "absolute bums" for 41 fights, etc. You're obviously not coming into this discussion from a place of any substance.