Canelo and his legal, illegal handwraps.

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  1. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Sanchez was seriously not happy the last time out, very suspicious but legal way to wrap Canelos hands had him fuming but apparently this is fine but only in Nevada? Everybody else in the world deems it dangerous apart from 1 American state?

    So obviously team Canelo are going to repeat the procedure. Is Abel accepting of it even if he doesnt agree with it or is he going to be lodging some sort of complaint? He got caught out last time cuz 1st he knew of it they were doing it but hes had a year to atleast try to do something about it. But im struggling to find his opinions on this in regards to the rematch anywhere.
     
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  2. BCS8

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    If I were Abel I'd be practising that wrap myself.

    I would 100% wrap GGG's hands the same way.

    If Canelo's team objects, that's fine, because it means that they can't wrap Canelo's hands the same way. If they don't, then the playing field is level
     
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  3. Flamazide

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    It isn't even legal in Nevada. They have stopped other people from doing it before. It is illegal everywhere and a huge health risk to the fighters.
     
  4. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    How did they get away with it then? Sanchez certainly made enough noise in a room full of officials.
     
  5. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Exactly how i would play it. But i know Sanchez has said he wouldnt even if Canelo is. But then after all the nastyness between the 2 sides maybe hes had a change of heart and would like to see Canelos face smashed in, i know i would.
     
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  6. Flamazide

    Flamazide Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Because state athletic commissions are autonomous. It is a dumb sport.
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's illegal everywhere including Nevada? Really : if it's so illegal then why don't you show us where in the rules it deems that way of wrapping illegal?
     
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  8. Flamazide

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    If it is legal why do they stop other people from doing it in Nevada? It is illegal. Why would they allow something like that in the first place? Ask anyone that has ever boxed or wrapped anyone's hands. This is one of the dirtiest things you can do in the sport.
     
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  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's nothing dirty about wrapping a fighter's hands legally. Officials stand over the fighters and observe hands being wrapped and know what you can and can't do. What examples of fighters being stopped from wrapping their hands a certain way are you referring to?
     
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  10. Flamazide

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    Lara said he tried to do this when he fought Canelo and was stopped as he should have been.

    It is dirty when it gives you an unfair advantage.

    It is illegal. It is a serious risk to fighter's health which is why it is banned. Nevada will pick and choose when to enforce this because they are one of the most corrupt state commissions in the world and the commissions are the authority on the subject.

    Have you ever even been to a boxing gym? Do you know how to wrap anyone's hands? Have you had your own hands wrapped? Do you know the advantages this gives you? If you don't then instead of arguing with someone that actually knows what they are talking about educate yourself on the subject and learn.
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lara's team complained about Canelo's hand wraps, as did Liam Smith's team, as did Sanchez. Complaining about it or getting the inspector to double-check the hand wraps doesn't make it illegal.

    How Canelo gets his hands wraps isn't dirty and doesn't give you an unfair advantage. It isn't illegal, that specific way of wrapping isn't a serious risk to a fighter's health, in fact that way of wrapping is done to protect a fighter's hand from being injured when he throws punches.

    As Robert Garcia explains, he's wrapped fighters hands like that both in California and Nevada and it was not deemed illegal. Watch the video, he explains it gives a fighter more confidence knowing that a fighter's hands are more protected, in wrapping your hands that way, there's less of a risk of injuring your hands with that style of hand wraps when you throw punches.

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    So what you're saying is simply not true. That's not a banned style of wrapping a fighter's hands. You're claim that Nevada is so corrupt that they pick and choose when to enforce this is absurd. It's not anywhere in the rules, and it sounds to me like you're trying to defend Abel Sanchez which just isn't a good idea. Sanchez embarrassed himself by trying to tell the NSAC official what the rules were. Please respond to the points Robert Garcia is making. I look forward to hearing your response.
     
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  13. Flamazide

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    Wrong. Very wrong. Wrapping them the way Canelo's hands were actually makes them feel more like a brick than anything else.

    Because often you have people in the athletic commission that don't even know what should be allowed and what shouldn't. California actually explicitly states that is illegal. Also if this was legal literally every single boxer would do this and there wouldn't be explicit rules against this.

    It IS banned. He is basically doing the same thing Trinidad did. The only reason you don't understand this is because you have never boxed, probably known anyone that has boxed, wrapped anyone's hands, or had them wrapped yourself. If you did we wouldn't even be having this conversation because you would already know that this is illegal and you would understand why.

    Also, you are such a Canelo dickrider that you're so blinded by everything that you turn it into a discussion of "OH, YOU MUST BE SAYING THIS BECAUSE ABEL SANCHEZ SAID THIS!" because that makes sense to you. Because that's how you react to things. I give zero ****s what Sanchez said or did. I care about fighter safety and the rules of this sport. You care about being a fanboy and will abandon all logic and cherry pick anything and anyone if it makes your boy look good.
     
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  14. PIPO23

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    Dude is in the denial that Clenelo is a cheat. Deny, deny, deny. That he is from the Clenbuterol Capital of the world and top 3 cheats in the world based on statistic. How many from there are caught with illegal drugs? but let's deny, deny, deny everything. LOL.
     
  15. shadow111

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    Again, as Robert Garcia explains, that way of hand wrapping protects a fighter's hands. It doesn't make a fighter hand wraps a cast. The reason why I posted the video of Robert Garcia is because I already saw you try using the "you've never been in a boxing gym" argument. Rather than argue over something neither one of us can prove, I went ahead and pointed you in the direction a real trainer who has been in a boxing gym, has the kind of experience you claim I don't, who explained it better than I ever could.

    This has nothing to do with my riding a fighter. This has to do with what the rules are, and how the commission inspectors do their jobs. You believing that the NSAC is corrupt and their officials pick and choose when to enforce illegal hand wraps sounds to me like you're some tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy nut who has no clue what the rules are.

    You're on the wrong side of this one. I suggest you watch the video where Robert Garcia explains it well how wrong and out-of-line Sanchez was, how they aren't illegal, how he's wrapped Mikey Garcia's handwraps like that before and hand wraps his fighters based on what the state they are fighting in allows.

    Sanchez didn't know the rules PERIOD, and he made a complete ass of himself trying to tell the NSAC inspector Canelo's hand wraps were illegal when they weren't. Sanchez came across like an arrogant amateur nearly getting kicked out of the locker room as he well should have been for causing a scene based on his ignorant knowledge of the rules regarding hand wraps. The fact that fans like you are parroting his claims that Canelo's hand wraps are illegal trying to prove that he was right when he was clearly wrong and out of line is truly pathetic and is making a mockery out of the sport.

    You have no fricken clue what you're talking about, Canelo's hand wraps were completely legal, in not just Nevada but in other states as well. I suggest you respond directly to Robert Garcia's points in the video, rather than trying to speak to my credibility which is a real sign of desperation. This has nothing to do with me or my experience in the sport. This has to do with what the rules are regarding hand wraps, and your denial of this and your beliefs that are inconsistent with reality.
     
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