Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

Spin spin spin boy lol. It's funny seeing you squirm.

 

There weren't a lot of clean hits in that round, but the heavier shots that made the difference were landed by Canelo. Also Bivol spent too much time covering up on the ropes.

 

Stop making things up Shadow....I have never mentioned "generally" you have just made that up now.
I can quote several posts on this subject where I clearly say that a fight is measuered for 3 minutes of each round and each round is a seperate entity.
It's you who is trying to reframe reality giving credit to Canelo when none is due. It was Bivol who was clearly the more effective with a far higher output. It's not up for debate my insane sweet summer child.

 

You are correct.....the main difference is that AJ fans didn't attempt to pretend that he won or it was that close....
Canelo fanboys have been in complete meltdown for the last week.
The denial is deluded and demented or DDD.
I think that is how I''m going to address the nuthuggers from now on......DDD.

 

Well I see 5 possible options....
1. Insane.
2. High on PCP. Crack. Krokodil and Fentanyl super combo.
3. Live in a parallel universe where Canelo won.
4. Lobotomy patients.
5. Employed by Canelo's PR company running interference on social media and message boards.

It is also reasonable that more than one option can be correct.

 

Round 1 proved that the first 4 rounds were pre filled. No way did Canelo win that round.

 

I foresee a Calzaghe Lacy style one sided beatdown in the rematch, given how this one turned out. Never in my time watching the sport has an opponent who got so outclassed gone on to do anything other than perform comprehensively worse in an immediate rematch, and I doubt Ginger Nuts will be the exception here.

 

I'd rather be Joshua than Canelo in a rematch though. Worst that could happen to Juicy J would be a clean schooling followed by a stoppage. Canelo's chin and refusal to admit he's the lesser fighter (plus hopes of getting the decision) will see him ship an unholy level of punishment over twelve that will break him at the top level.

 

I agree to an extent. It goes both ways for AJ as he has the power to stop anyone but is vulnerable himself so therefore a better chance of someone getting stopped especially if more risks are taken than the first fight. I think Caneolo's chin is good although I think Beterbiev and potentially Smith could crack him I'm not sure Bivol can but I think he get's schooled again as speed and skill are difficult to negate.

 

Canelo was slower, smaller and the inferior boxer. His power shots had no impact on Bivol. Bivol was the better boxer, moved better, was quicker and had a better gas tank. He looked fresh in the 12th. Canelo isn’t going to get better, faster or stronger in the rematch. I don’t see it happening but hope it does because it’s easy money for Bivol.

AJ has a puncher’s chance and we don’t know how much the Ukraine tragedy weighs on the mind of Usyk. He has to fight a near perfect fight to beat a much bigger man. I still like his chances but it’s not going to be easy.

Usyk is a prime example of a guy moving up and beating much bigger, stronger opponents. He does it with speed, better movement, great gas tank and boxing skills. Canelo was clearly the inferior boxer, had poor stamina, didn’t move well and lacked the speed to give Bivol trouble. Small and slow are a bad combination, as my high school football team found out on a weekly basis.

 

I mostly agree. I don't buy the narrative that he's a lot smaller yes he's lacking height but he looked like a tank to me in the ring it's not like Loma or Pacman going in against far bigger men in frame and weight.
The biggest issue for Canelo to me is that extra weight (to have a power advantage) has slowed him and reduced his patchy gas tank even further. I think the only way he could close the gap a little would be to come in lighter at the weight. I still think Bivol beats him as better movement. hand speed and skill are too difficult to nullify.

 

I agree, Canelo was giving up less size than Loma and Usyk give up EVERY FIGHT. Canelo was “small” in terms of his power in this fight. The few power shots he landed had zero affect on Bivol. He was small in terms of power but the extra weight he was carrying diminished his gas tank. If he comes in lighter, it could give Bivol a major strength advantage and make Bivol’s shots more damaging. Canelo can come in as light as he wants and he’s still not going to be quicker than Bivol not to mention as skilled as Bivol. If Canelo can’t weight drain Bivol, I can’t see him winning. Even if he does weight drain him, Bivol isn’t a big LH and should be good enough to dish out a beating at 168. I don’t blame him if he chooses to stay at 175.

 

CJ Ross?