Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

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  1. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    Did you post this while looking into the mirror?
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nope, this topic is total spin and crying about judges scores from Q. I filled in the blanks to his selective punch summary of Round 1 ignoring much of Canelo's work. And then he refused to engage on that because he knows he's checkmated.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Only the first was close. You can have the initial one-third of the fight scored either 40-36 or 39-37 for Bivol, that's it. Where people are getting the second or fourth being tossups has been a great source of puzzlement to me since fight night. They weren't. Bivol was dialed in from the last half-minute of the opener, and very tightly held the reins for the next 3+ rounds.
     
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  4. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Apparently Reddit is the place to be enlightened ....
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The last half minute of the opener involved Bivol being battered on the ropes and getting rocked with a major uppercut to end the round, if that's being dialed in, then I don't know what to tell you.

    But you at least recognize that the first round was close, or closer than rounds 2-3, which is inconsistent with Q's argument that Canelo has a better case in rounds 2-3 than Round 1. So again this shows that fans cannot agree on these early rounds.

    Before we move on to Rounds 2-4, we need to deal with Round 1. You recognize that round was close IB, but other people don't, so that's puzzling. Why do you recognize Round 1 as close but others like Q don't? We're all seeing the same thing, but the interpreting of what happened is very different from person to person.
     
  6. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is either poor trolling or the worst take in a thread were Shadow has posted. that isn't something to be proud of.
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: I suspect it's a combination of all five
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Me too. Let's be honest here we all witnessed the baptism of ginger dwarf take place in The Unholy Church of Clenelo last week and if pastor Dmitry were to re-baptize said dwarf in his church, The Church of Dmitry, it will surely put an end to his career.
     
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  10. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    I legit couldnt give 1 round to canelo.
     
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  11. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lmao did you see the first few "punches" you timestamped? Delusional idiot.
    You don't even know what a scoring blow is you fool.

    You have the cheek to call my analysis of Round 1 selective but you are the one giving credit to a 3 punch combo from Clenelo where nothing of significance lands. I may as well go back and score all the little forehead taps Bivol was doing to Canelo's head.

    You really are an idiot
     
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  12. kiwi_boxer

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  13. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just a reminder to everyone how delusional Shadow is (above) . This clown was trying to give Canelo credit for this "combo" LMAO!!! Shadow is bereft of any ideas he's resorted to making up anything he can possible
     
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  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "Nothing of significance lands"? Those weren't forehead taps, it was a 3 punch combo with Bivol backed up along the ropes.

    I'm trying to transcribe your timestamps to the overhead camera video. I made a video of what is apparently this punch that you counted as landed by Bivol :

    "0:46 jab from Bivol"

    https://i.imgur.com/bOWdsW6.mp4

    Is this the jab that you counted here? This was a "forehead tap" attempt which was blocked, the DAZN camera angle on this punch was from a different angle (behind Bivol) that makes it look like it may have landed or that it was more than tap. The overhead camera shows it from a much better angle, the side angle, as we can see here this was a very light jab that was blocked.
     
  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This isn't a combo for you?

    The overhead camera angle shows the right hook connecting, here's the DAZN angle :

    https://i.imgur.com/iTQCBKl.mp4

    You didn't mention any of this. 2 jabs to set up the right hook, then the last jab landing flush as Bivol moved right along the ropes. We can't tell if the right hook connected from the DAZN camera angle, but we can on the overhead camera. We can't tell if the last jab landed from the overhead camera, but we can clearly see it landing flush on the DAZN camera angle.

    So with the benefit of these 2 different camera angles, we can put the pieces of the puzzle together and know that at least 2 shots landed in this combo. The first jab was flicked, hard to tell if that one landed, may have just grazed the forehead, the 2nd jab was short to set up the right hand, the next 2 punches definitely landed. That's a 4 punch combo, with 2 or 3 of them landing.

    I can understand you not knowing if the right hand landed without the overhead camera, but you can clearly see the last jab landing flush, you should have at least noticed that one.