Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    All I see are ad hom attacks. Shadow is winning this argument tbh.
     
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  2. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Also, @ellerbe if you want to see true dishonesty. Check these punches out Shadow claims (all round 1):

    1:00 shadow gives credit to a jab and right hook hand.. Nothing of which lands
    0:57 credits Canelo's jab for landing. Nothing lands
    0:48 credits Canelo for a leaping left hook.. Which is in fact a non scoring inside glove slap to thee side of the head.

    Do you see what we are dealing with here? I just picked out some of his timestamp corrections and realised he's mental. I didn't even go through the whole thing and found these exaggerations quickly
     
    Quina74, May 16, 2022
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  3. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cool now watch the timestamps I mentioned. Shadow is not winning anything in the slightest. He's just straight up exaggerating Canelo's work even crediting punches that don't land
     
    Quina74, May 16, 2022
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  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I will when I get home. On train it’s a bit of a pain that you can’t provide me the direct gif like shadow has.
     
    ellerbe, May 16, 2022
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This content is protected
     
    shadow111, May 16, 2022
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  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have to watch this when I get home.
     
    ellerbe, May 16, 2022
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  7. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've given you the link to the fight. All you have to do is skip to the times I've suggested in round 1.

    Shadows game has always been dishonesty
     
    Quina74, May 16, 2022
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  8. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cool shadow, did you watch those timestamps... Did you also see those made up punches you credited in them lmao
     
    Quina74, May 16, 2022
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  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This must be really embarrassing for you.
     
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  10. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What is he "winning" exactly?
    He isn't going to convince anyone that believes the fight was a schooling by Bivol. he just isn't and it was a schooling.
    Also Shadow's tactic is to use fallacy and false equivelence as if it's going out of fashion.
    So no he may not do ad hominem attacks but he's using every other fallacy possible.
    So I'm really eager on your input to how Shadow is winning.....
    I mean really.
     
    exocet76, May 16, 2022
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  11. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh cool so now straight to avoiding my question and in denial. Lmao this is brilliant
     
    Quina74, May 16, 2022
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  12. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    From what I see Shadow is providing links corroborating his claims, Q has too but I haven’t had a chance to take a look since he hasn’t presented it in an easily viewable way like Shadow. However, you on the other hand, I just see you attacking his character instead of arguing against the points he’s presenting.
     
    ellerbe, May 16, 2022
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Some quotes from a recent interview

    ''Canelo can't fight''

    ''It was the easiest fight of my career''

    ''He's a ginger bum''


    -- Bivol Dmitry
     
    Serge, May 16, 2022
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  14. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To be honest, shadow is a real deceiving and dishonest guy when it comes to Canelo. Pretty sure he had the Floyd Canelo fight close. He finds a way to justifiy every dodgy Canelo scorecard.

    It's also very hard to debate rounds with Shadow because he will go to extreme lengths to credit Canelos punches even if they are slaps, grazing punches, probing punches etc.
     
    Quina74, May 16, 2022
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  15. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The thing with Shadow is and I know from extensive experience is that he will literally make things up and hope you don't fact check him.
    The keys to victory are not to get steered onto something else (deflection) persist with a point he hasn't answered and avoided. Then fact check his sources and you will find that what's being provided is either misleading at best or just made up altogether.
     
    exocet76, May 16, 2022
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