Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Correct, that's all exo ever does. And I could care less about being right or proving these idiots wrong. All I care about it setting the historical record straight and weeding out the nonsense.
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Look I agree his Floyd card was dodgy af and we don’t see eye to eye on that. We’ve argued about it but I remember being like you arguing against his card for GGG vs Canelo 1 and he just made some points I wasn’t ready to concede to due to immaturity. But to me the most important thing is the truth and he was speaking the truth at the time
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Making things up? I'm posting clips of multiple angles showing you exactly what happened. If posting footage is making things up then reality is a fabrication to you.
     
  4. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When you call him out on a non existent or barely scoring punch, he will go beyond the realms of imagination to credit it and will just say "how are you not seeing" as if it wasn't already clear for everyone to see.

    I've literally also see him claim I do the above and it comes across as if he has parroted it.. Which is very weird in itself
     
  5. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Er you might want to check the other Canelo threads and then get back to me. If your stating that Shadow is in good faith and being honest then I can't help you.
     
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  6. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again see my timestamps you liar
     
  7. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You absolutely do care about being right lmao. You appeal to everyone for your validation and you refuse to budge on anything even if you are glaringly wrong . That's not someone who is three to debate.. That's someone who has their mind set no matter what.

    If I'm corrected on a punch that doesn't land or lands, I'll admit when I'm wrong. You on the other hand, will just go to extreme lengths of dishonesty
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I also think a lot of my comments about the Floyd fight were taken out of context. People were trying to act like I was defending the 114-114 which was absurd. All I was doing was pointing out how close some of the rounds were while agreeing that Floyd won. I just disagreed with the idea that it was a shutout or a domination. Same kind of situation here, obviously I agreed that Bivol clearly won, my issue is with the exaggerations about how dominate it was or that you couldn't give rounds 1-4 to Canelo.
     
  9. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well his other strategy is to accuse you of what you accuse him of. which is frustrating but it''s there in text so cannot be denied.
    It's a classic deflection tactic which he will try and pull at any opportunity.
     
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  10. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I disagree with you, but I have a bias for Floyd so it may be preventing me from seeing what you see.
     
  11. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    @shadow111
    I'm off to bed, I expect an apology and admittance that you were wrong in the morning after you watch those timestamps
     
  12. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    @shadow111
    Reminder below.. See the website I linked.. And don't forget that jab you claim didn't land ;)
     
  13. shadow111

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    1:00 shadow gives credit to a jab and right hook hand.. Nothing of which lands

    I made a clip of this :

    https://i.imgur.com/64ELEU6.mp4

    So what is your argument here, that the jab caught some gloves on its way to the forehead? That jab may have skimmed some gloves but it definitely connected to the forehead and backed Bivol up, and the right hook connected to the shoulder. Don't see how you could dispute that, but I'm not sure what your argument here is.
     
  14. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :risas3::risas3::risas3::risas3::risas3:
    I'll respond to this in the morning. Good laugh before bed
     
  15. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not the one who thinks the wotld is flat and that Canelo was in a close fight......
    The issue is from the start you're scoring everything possible for Canelo whilst ignoring the work of Bivol.
    We had this out possibly in another thread or pergaps this one where you were trying to convince me that a few uppercuts should score more than being jabbed and flurried throughout a round. I explained then that you can't ignore the punch output and clean and effective wotk by Bivol.
    This was when you were trying you best to say the judges scores were ffair and that the first 4 rounds went to Canelo.
    That strategy wasn't working so you have now reframed again and you've dragged Q into arguing the toss over the first round.
    It's a fallacy though because of the bias you have going into it. at this point on top of that is a sunken cost fallacy because now you are too invested in this narrative that you've created.
     
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