Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

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  1. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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  3. shadow111

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    "1:00 shadow gives credit to a jab and right hook hand.. Nothing of which lands"
    This is what we looked at earlier from the overhead camera, the one where you said "Tbh it’s hard to see if that jab lands." You said you wouldn't be mad if I counted that because you weren't sure. I referred to the overhead camera because we can't see how it landed on the DAZN camera angle.

    "0:57 credits Canelo's jab for landing. Nothing lands"
    I noted that there were dueling jabs here, both threw jabs at the same time. So I was not only counting Canelo's jab here, I was also counting Bivol's. Q did not mention either of these punches in his summary so I added them while watching from the overhead camera.

    I took a closer look at this one from the DAZN camera. I can see why you would think Canelo's jab missed. Watching it in real time it looks like it may have missed. But lets slow it down :

    https://i.imgur.com/jGcN9WG.mp4

    Watch closely. It didn't land flush or anything, but it wasn't blocked and in slow mo it can be seen landing to the side of Bivol's head. We don't have the best camera angles here. This wasn't an attempt to give Canelo more credit than Bivol. I was just pointing out that both fighter's landed jabs at the same time which Q did not mention in his summary. It looks to me like Canelo's jab hits him right on the side of the temple. But I could see why people would think this missed while watching it in real-time.
     
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    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Here's it from the overhead cam :
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    If you wanna call it a non scoring shot because it landed with the inside part of the glove, that's your argument. The fact is it landed.
     
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    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    You’re finished pal. It’s over…

    7 hours later and you’re here arguing with yourself.

    Pack it in.
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm just getting started bud. I can do this all night.
     
  7. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    We’re well aware. Your delusion has no bounds.

    @Serge any chance of a ban, just for Shadows own safety. We’re all a little concerned at this point. Nothing serious, just a day or so, so he can get some sleep. It’s almost been a week and a half now…
     
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    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Begging the mods for a ban now, how sad. Getting desperate are we.:eaea:
     
  9. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol all this waffle and he asked you a simple question.. @ellerbe, shadow credited it as if they landed. And shadow, that inside glove slap left hook is not a scoring punch.. Its a slap... If you're gonna score that, then you simply can't score fights properly. Which we already knew. Next timestamps please :)
     
  10. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And shadow, fancy answering that very simple but important question I asked:
     
  11. Quina74

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    You are creditng nothing. Nothing lands for either fighter
     
  12. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fixed it for you
     
  13. shadow111

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    You noted that the lunging left hook landed, if you don't wanna call it a scoring shot, that's your business.
     
  14. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was exactly that. You trying to credit. Canelo for no good reason
    That jab was not a scoring blow. And also, you need to post the gifs in both slow motion and normal speed otherwise its difficult to gauge the impact. I've said this before. Also, are you going to answer that simple question i asked?
     
  15. Quina74

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    Shadow. Come on. It clearly hits Bivols head but it's not scoring blow. You are now justifying slaps.. It's boxing.. You know punches