Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

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  1. BCS8

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    Just to be clear here, punches to the shoulder count as scoring punches in the Shadowmundo scoring system?
     
  2. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Complete and utter nonsense. you ignore the punch stats bevause it doesn't suit your narrative.
    You post's are cancer and asinine.
     
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  3. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We both know anything is possible in Shadow's world and reality is just a mild inconvenience.
     
  4. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Shadowmundo lol
     
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  5. shadow111

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    Why wouldn't they be? Is there anything in the scoring criteria that prohibits judges from counting them as scoring shots?
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You know exactly squat when it comes to boxing or reality. And your little outburst on divac wasn't very nice. You need to learn some manners.
     
  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    That was for me with this topic. I don't get why people are going to waste anymore time, as Clenbuterolos fangirls are clearly trolling at this point.
    There is not a single thing anyone could catch for to justify the dog***** scoring in that fight. As well as both GGG fights, were GGG clearly won 9-3/8-4 and 9-3, 8-4 both fights.
    I don't need their approval to know what happen in this fights, as well as Bivol fights, where 99,99% of the people that can see with their eyes see that the fight was dominant performance for Bivol, and 10-2,11-1, 12-0 was the only reason result anyone with normal mind can see.

    Everyone on the train and ignore this fantasy living people.
    I did give a chance on @ellerbe, as he was a bit normal of his fans, but don't wanna waste more time on his bias, so he is going to end on my ignore list as well.
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I smell fear.
    That's what you pretend everything is which is total fantasy.
    Cool story bro. Too bad you don't have the intellectual ability to see what's really occuring.
    The point is to (in your case) discover what happened in a round since you obviously don't see any of what's happening on your own.
    Wow how illuminating.
    Wow you really know your boxing man. Did you come up with that all by yourself?
    Of course, we know, Bivol never got hit even once in the fight, he always blocked everything perfectly and everything he threw landed on Canelo. You really just layed it all out for us. Why don't we just take your word for everything moving forward. Maybe we shouldn't even score rounds on our own anymore, just defer to you after every fight for now on huh.
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good thing we have professional judges scoring prize fights instead of biased morons like you. GGG lost, too bad for you, but keep crying about it. Bivol won 115-113 x3, far from the shutout or near shutout you think happened.
     
  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are one of the most deluded posters I've ever seen. Bivol boxed Canelos stamina out. It was not a competitive fight.

    You have to be a bot, theres no other way :risas3:
     
  11. shadow111

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    Canelo gassed in the 2nd half of the bout, what does that have to do with who won the first 4 rounds? Canelo was not gassed in the early rounds, that is what we're presently discussing fruitcake.
     
  12. BCS8

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    "Sometimes it looks like a punch landed but in reality it came within inches or less. That happens. When fighters are in close or locked up, no one can see what punches land and count better than the judges – even then, only some of the judges can see depending on where the action is in the ring. Again, this is why there are three (pro) to five (amateur) judges. Even the best camera operator may not capture what is truly happening.If a punch landed in the scoring zone
    This is definitely a pet peeve and it happens in both the pros and amateurs.
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    In the pros, you will hear the crowd go wild when,
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    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/q...g/2019/jan/02/boxing-judge-scoring-528-fights

    The shoulder roll is a defensive move where you deflect a punch by rolling your shoulders away from it. The
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    https://expertboxing.com/how-to-shoulder-roll

    There are no benefits to intentionally hitting your opponent’s arm because
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    and it doesn’t hurt your opponent in comparison to connecting with their head, jaw, and liver.

    https://www.healthyprinciples.co.uk/can-you-hit-arms-in-boxing/
     
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  13. BCS8

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    No bot could spew out what Shadow does without blowing a valve somewhere.

    Only somebody driven by pure man-love for Canelo's sweaty body could have such endurance ;)
     
  14. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well I seem to lnow more than you on boxing as well as how the world works. but we both know that already.
    As an extension you are saying over 90% on here don't know boxing as they scored it a round either way of my score.
    Now if your saying most people on here are clueless but then using a Redddit post as proof that shows how mental you actually are.
    Divac is a contrarian troll like yourself. I only give you the time of day because I want to see how many fallacies you can put in one post. Your record is 18 btw.
     
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  15. shadow111

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    https://straight2boxing.com/2018/05/15/target-areas-in-boxing/

    The legal target area is “any part of the front or sides of the head or body above the belt of [your] opponent,” according to the USA Boxing passbook.

    Shoulders or arms are not expressly prohibited as a scoring blow.
    The shoulder roll is different than a punch landing flush on the shoulder or bicep. The shoulder roll is a flashy manuever that negates the effectiveness of a shot, by causing it to land in a way that is less impactful, not only by landing on the shoulder instead of more optimal areas but also by "rolling with the punch".
    This says that hitting the arm won't score "more" points not that it won't or can't score "any" points. Also there's a difference between hitting arms and shoulders. You can connect high on the shoulder while aiming for the head, or you can specifically target the arms or bicep to inflict damage like Miguel Cotto vs. Gianluca Branco or Rocky Marciano.