Canelo Bivol rounds 1-4 - "close fight" comprehensively debunked debunked

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  1. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I read about 2 lines and then I got brain damage......

    With that being said you are happy to use the judges scores to support your case yet in the next heartbeat say the punch stats completely favor Bivol even going as far as saying that they are biased.
    This has little bearing on reality as it's Canelo's backyard with everything stacked in his favor.
    It would then be more logical therefore to assume that the punchstats are against Bivol further compounding his dominence.
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All I can tell you is as I was watching the fight and the punch stats started popping up everyone at the watch party I was at could not believe the punch stats were that one sided in favor of Bivol. It was very shocking, it was clear that there was an anti-Canelo agenda from DAZN which has clearly affected the public's view of how close it was. We were watching a very even fight, everyone recognized how close it was then the punch stats come up making it seem like Bivol was dominating. You wanna talk about corruption, look no further than that. We all thought those punch stats were very suspicous, so if you or Q is making the argument that the punch stats were wrong I'll agree, but not in the way you would have me believe, that they should have been even more one-sided in favor of Bivol. That is flat out mental.

    I would also add as I mentioned in the other topic that the commentators were making it seem like Bivol was having more success then he was actually having, they were on numerous occasions claiming that Bivol was landing shots that were actually being blocked and slipped. The level of DAZN bias against Canelo was some of the worst bias I have ever seen in my life, and this isn't just my opinion. Everyone at the watch party agreed on this, they took a close fight and pretended it was one-sided which obviously influenced many fans like yourself who were watching which is why we are seeing so many fans argue it was one sided. They have been brainwashed by DAZN into thinking that Bivol dominated and it is a big problem in the sport. But unlike you, I'm not fooled by commentator bias and you'll never convince me otherwise.
     
  3. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is getting into psychosis territory. I've literally just proven punch stats were not crediting a good portion of Bivols work

    For you to claim that is flat out mental..is not just flat out wrong, but extremely dishonest. But your dishonesty isn't new to anyone. I've come to deal with it.
     
  4. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :risas3::risas3:

    You really are a sh it stirrer
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And just to support my claim, I'll point you to this comment, showing that Q is having his delusional views validated by DAZN commentary and he's not thinking for himself. He's clearly been brainwashed into believng what the DAZN commentary team is telling him happened :
    You've got your marching orders from DAZN about what happened and now you're regurgitating their biased and delusional views of what happened. Your mind is clearly compromised, you're a cog in the wheel of the anti-Canelo DAZN broadcast machine.
     
  6. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shadow you are getting owned and going into psychosis. Chill out
     
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  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're not scoring the match independently. You're using DAZN commentary to construct and validate your views. You clearly have an anti-Canelo agenda, you've set out to prove that he didn't win rounds which is not a proper basis for scoring a round. On the other hand, I have no agenda, I am not influenced by the commentators, I focus on the action and do not allow biased commentators to influence my view of a round.
     
  8. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What are you talking about? I use my own eyes as I've strictly laid out in my scoring. I was merely pointing out that DAZN reflected my own scoring.. At the end of the round.. You nutcase.

    Anti-Canelo DAZN bias lmao and actually there were several punches DAZN credited from Canelo that didn't even land on rewatch

    And you can talk about getting your views validated by others like YouTuber Rummy lmao (who says himself "I don't know **** about boxing")
     
  9. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The kind of comments you're resorting to now is of a lost soul. Give the gig up, go home
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lay off Rummy, don't insult him like that, he says that in a playful way to show he doesn't take himself too serious, but he knows his stuff. I don't always agree with his cards, but his 116-112 should make you pause because what you are arguing in rounds 1-4 make it sound like his score is way off and wholly unreasonable. And it's not just Rummy, most people I've come across, aside from the haters on here who always score ridiculously against Canelo, had it 9-3 or 8-4. That's pretty much the most common scores coming out of this match which is quite a ways from the score you are trying to argue. And not only that but you're taking a hard line approach of a near shutout which is actually mad.
     
  11. ConfusedGuy

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    Yeah this is spot on.
     
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  12. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That doesn't make sense though when you think about it I mean really.
    Why would DAZN undermine the main cashcow?
    It's more reasonable to assume that Bivol was simply dominating Canelo which he clearly was.
    To state it was close is complete nonsense it just is. I'm not a fanboy myself so like with the GGG fight I'm calling it as I see it.
    What your saying does not make any sense. Ok then list me fights wgere the home fighter has the commentary and scorecards all against them? I'll wait.........
    You can't because there isn't one example you could give me because that's simply contrary to how it works.
    It''s like the AJ fight with Usyk if it was just a but closer they would have robbed Usyk because AJ is on home turf and is the money man. The fact they gave it to Usyk again a lot closer than tthe fight was shows how dominent that performance was and it's no different than Bivol's domination.
    Also you are doing your usual tactic of doing the switch a roo..meaning your saying that Bivol's punches were missing or cuffing shot's when it is completely the other way around. It was Canelo who was struggling to land cleanly and was hitting air. gloves and arm.
    This is why Canelo was gassing as it expends more energy when punches are missing.
    You can try and use semantics and to rewrite reality but having seen the fight a few times now there's no reasonable way you can say that fight was remotely close. you just can't mate.
     
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  13. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What an ass licker lmao stop trying to play the good guy. You're a dishonest fool
    No, because I've gone in detail rounds 1-3. And I can almost guarantee no one has done what I have done (at least no channel, or post, or anyone on social media) in detailing the rounds. Again, round 1 there is 0 case for Canelo. Rounds 2 and 3 there is a very very poor case for Canelo.
    Again, no. This is you living in your own bubble. I've seen countless amount of people have it 12-0 or 10-2
    No what is mad is claiming my analysis of round 1 to 3 is mad, when I'm the only one who has done a detailed breakdown. What is mad is claiming there is an anti-Canelo DAZN bias, then referring to compubox to try and credit Canelo, and then ignore the fact I've PROVEN Bivol was not being credit on compubox.

    You have been utterly and convincingly owned and there's nothing you can do about. Write what you will, we and everyone on here know you've been put in your place
     
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  14. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm feeling quite sorry for Shadow tbh. He's coming across quite hopeless. We might have to tone it down guys.

    Talking of the hopeless, has anyone seen 22IQ? ASSOLs being quiet too
     
  15. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The thing with shadow is he keeps coming back for more no matter what. He truly can't lose any face whatsoever