Canelo Blames Bivol for negotiations breaking down

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Bivol does and Clenelo better start doing so if he wants his soul back
     
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  2. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bivok team is on record shutting that fight down also despite what Bob arum said Bivol team said no to Beterbiev this year saying it’s not enough money. Again what you said sounds cool if not for Bivol team having 50 different reasons to refuse Canelo, he’ll the man own manager did an interview saying Canelo could KO them in a rematch. Facts is Bivol and his team not as confident in a rematch as you Canelo haters
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    People say a lot of things but I stick to the nit and grit

    And fact is OG Bob shut the fight down when it was offered to him on a platter and he went and made Beterbiev vs Yarde instead

    Again, I stick to the nit and grit

    Why wouldn't Team Bivol be confident of beating Clenelo in the rematch when Bivol toyed with his ass with ease in the first fight without even needing to move out of 2nd gear to do so?

    And why wouldn't I be confident of him being able to do so when I not only witnessed that ass whooping with thine own eyes but I told everyone before the fight that Bivol was a king and that he possessed the tools to beat his ass?
     
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  4. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    CA is already set and a certified Hall of famer, again, I doubt he cares. I have zero interest in a rematch.

    beterbiev and Bivol are the ones who should be fighting.
     
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  5. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    man’s get Bivol own manager said they turned down the fight this year make it make sense. Bivol lost 4/5 rounds to Canelo who might have been injured clearly that didn’t think it was so easy as they got excuses not to make the fight
     
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  6. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You’re seriously delusional if you think Bivol lost 4-5 rounds to Canelo.
     
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  7. IsaL

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    Bivol needs to fight Beterbiev.

    /thread
     
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  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Bivol shouldn't take any less than 50% so if that's the stumbling block fair play to him.
     
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  9. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Bivol is miles better than Plant, Smith and BJS..skills don’t pay the bills in this case
     
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  10. SergioJ91

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    Seems like clenelo wants to screw Bivol over and pay him the same or just slightly more…He’s using Fury’s tactics with Usyk…Lowballing and disrespecting him, knowing they could never accept such an unfair offer. Then blaming them for the negotiations falling apart. It’s as clear as day what they’re doing, it confuses the public. They’re accomplishing exactly what they want with these tricks…
     
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    If this is true it's obviously because Clenelo was not being reasonable at the negotiating table and wasn't treating the champ/father with due respect

    How much do you think undefeated P4P#5 Bivol deserves for the rematch after he arguably holds the biggest win in boxing in a long time?

    An ass whooping of the then P4P king, biggest star in the sport, and face of boxing

    $2-5 mill again?

    $8 mill like BJS 2.0 and Callum Smith?

    $10 mill like Caleb Plant?

    Or more?

    :risas3: Bivol did not lose 4/5 rounds to Clenelo

    Clenelo got his ass whooped even though Bivol didn't need to move out of second gear to do it and on the rare occasions he did in response to Clenelo trying to up the pace Bivol put him back in his place immediately

    Excuses? You mean like Clenelo's supposed injury?

    The excuses are Bivol just wants fair treatment and to be treat with respect, Clenelo and many of his fans are loath for that to happen because they know it's the end of their ginger god if he does so
     
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  12. Serge

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    Yes and he's P4P#5, undefeated and he beat Clenelo's ass with ease in the first fight
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I'm not disputing that

    The kid can fight

    He just can't fight as good as his father

    But if he genuinely wants to try and avenge his loss to him and isn't just selling wolf biscuits then he has to treat his father with respect at the negotiating table

    I really want to see that fight too and hopefully it will happen but unlike Clenelo they can't pick and choose who they fight and OG Bob has put a stop to it happening and ruled it out numerous times.

    Clenelo fans shouldn't be begging and praying for Beterbiev to do Clenelo's dirty work for him.
     
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  14. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    It’s pretty simple, hardly anybody even knows who Bivol is in the United States. He made like 500k in his 2nd biggest fight in his career against Zurdo, he expects to make more than 10 million for what, where else is he going to make 5 plus million? Boxing is a business, you make and deserve what you’re worth at the time. Canelo is on his way towards retirement and has plenty of options. The only options Bivol have are a Beterbiev fight which he refuses to do and another Canelo payday which he’s ducking.
     
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  15. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hahahaa bro it’s no reason for you to be this emotional about a fighter, you sound like Canelo smashed yo girl or something lmao… also bro Bivol beating a guy moving up to his 4th weight class isn’t the biggest win in boxing.
     
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