Canelo-Cotto 900k+ PPV Buys, Mayweather-Berto 400k PPV Buys

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  1. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Mayweather was brash, not witty, but brash. He earned a lot BECAUSE of the rivalries, not so much his own independent, personal drawing power.

    A rivalry was built up with a considerably past prime De La Hoya, and it did a lot of PPV buys. A rivalry was then built up with Manny Pacquiao shortly after. Mayweather piggybacked off the success of Manny Pacquiao, to intensify that rivalry.

    Mayweather-Cotto only did 1.1m PPV buys...and this was whilst Mayweather-Pacquiao rivalry was still intensifying.

    Mayweather then beat a semi-shot Manny Pacquiao in a farce. There were no more rivalries for Mayweather.
    That's why he drew only 400k buys for Berto.

    P.S The official GGG numbers weren't 97k, but 150k+, very good for someone from Kazakhstan who hasn't fought great fighters yet to establish his career and has only been on HBO a handful of times.
     
  2. BrandonB

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    Mayweather-Canelo 2.48m
    Mayweather- Cotto 1.5m

    What are you trying to prove? Mayweather has the 2nd highest grossing fight EVER against Canelo. Cotto only did 900k with him. What's your point? Canelo wasn't a rival of Floyds'. Quit spewing BS
     
  3. Hullboxinguk

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    Agreed....fight of the century was the worst of thr century
     
  4. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    That's because it's against CANELO. Canelo is the young star in boxing, and was able to do 900k with a past prime Cotto.

    Canelo drew his own fanbase. He was the great Mexican hope.

    Floyd's 400k buys is his true value.
     
  5. Desm0nd

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    Mayweather is the draw plain n simple
     
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    That 900 K was hinted at by Fat Dan and he has no idea what the final number will be.The numbers have not been released as yet,although I believe it will be around that figure-which are great numbers but let's give Cotto a lot of credit as well.He has very passionate fan base.
     
  8. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Someone please explain why Mayweather only drew 400k?
     
  9. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :cool: :bananamaniac
     
  10. Enigmadanks

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    He only drew that number because of the competition (or lack thereof.)

    He didn't eclipse 1 million buys with Guerero or Maidana either, and once again, that's due to the lack of star power in his opposition.

    He easily eclipsed 1 million with Cotto and over 2 million with Saul Alvarez so I don't see what your point is.

    If ANY other fighter fought against Berto on PPV, it would be lucky to do 150 K buys, especially considering Berto hasn't been relevant in a couple years.

    If FLoyd decided to come back and say fight Manny Pacman, more than likely they'd eclipse a minimum of 1.5 to 2 million buys.

    I don't know what your point or agenda is, but if it's to somehow discredit Mayweathers star power, you should use a better example than his very last fight after people were left disgusted with the Manny match (although personally I thought it was an OK fight.)
     
  11. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's pretty simple stuff actually that doesn't require anyone having a mastery in the business or marketing world:

    If FLoyd fights someone who fans and media pundits deem a legitimate challenge, the PPV sales skyrocket. This all started around the time he became a PPV star when he fought DLH in May of 2007.

    Guys since than that were given a true shot at beating him were:

    DLH- the naturally bigger man who campaigned at the full 154 limit.

    Hatton- The undefeated JWW kingpin who had campaigned for about 3 fights at WW before taking on Mayweather.

    Marquez- PPV numbers did well because he was at the time the best active Mexican fighter, but there was this notion he might be able to challenge FLoyd given Marquez' win streak going into that match and with FLoyd being out for almost 2 full years before taking on Dinamita.

    Mosley- Numbers were good for that fight because Mosley was also deemed a legitimate challenger, a guy who was recognized as the true champ of the WW division who was coming off arguably his biggest win since beating DLH.

    Canelo Alvarez- MANY people thought he'd beat FLoyd and people wondered whether Mayweather was over the hill at that juncture. Because of him being considered a dangerous opponent who had a plausible chance at beating him, the PPV cracked 2 million buys.

    Pacman- Fight that was brewing for over a half decade with a very common belief in the boxing/casual sports community that Manny would be his hardest foe of his career. Hence, the reason it eclipsed 4 million buys.

    The thing is, if you can find a legitimate challenger for Floyd, someone who ACTUALLY has a chance to beat him, people will tune in.

    GGG did 150 K buys or so, but I can guarantee you if he fought FLoyd they'd easily crack 1 million buys. And that has NOTHING to do with Gennady's "star power," rather, it would have everything to do with the fact he'd be considered FLoyd's most dangerous challenger to date, and people will tune in to see what happens.

    People aren't going to spend their hard earned money to see FLoyd beat guys he's favored to beat with relative ease. When they believe a challenger is deemed worthy enough to fight FLoyd and actually has a shot to beat him, than they tune in.
     
  12. SOUTHERMOST

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    For your information Floyd generated $1,300 M in PPV profit to TV (HBO,SHO) obscene numbers.
     
  13. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Make no mistake everyone, Cotto-Canelo was promoted TERRIBLY. If they actually had taken the attempt of promoting it well, things would have been different, at least 1.2m.
     
  14. BrandonB

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    Smh. Trolls here suck.. At least be more original lol
     
  15. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    You can't even answer the 'trolls' question.