Canelo could have done much better with this game plan

Canelo has all the physical attributes to make that style work but fighting that way burns energy really quickly so he would really have to be in phenomenal condition to make it work for 12 rounds and conditioning isn't exactly a strength of his.
His team knows him very well and they obviously considered this plan during camp but his build simply won't allow him to keep up that sort of pace for an entire fight. I still believe that he did the best that he could.

 

Canelo lacks the stamina. It would be difficult for him to try to use a completely different fighting style like that.

 

Canelo would have gassed in the first round

 

I never gave him a chance anyway hers a guy that looked shitty against Matthew Hatton for god sakes.. I also thought he lost his last fight to Trout by a few points

 

The type of fight plan Jesus Chavez employs, you rest on the inside leaning on your opponent.



Canelo is the bigger fighter.
Jesus Chavez is a novice version of JC Chavez and he had some sucess against Mayweather.

Anybody with a brain knew Canelo would have to apply pressure and use his strenghth and power while trying to keep the fight at close quarters.

Thats how a bigger fighter wears down a smaller/quicker/faster fighter.

Dipping low throwing wide hooks opens up the middle to come up with uppercuts, thats what you see from Jesus Chavez against Mayweather. Canelo stood straight looking to jab with a jabber. atsch

Nacho Beristain usually refrains from comment unless he's absolutely certain about an issue. He heavily criticized Canelo's corner and said they did'nt have any plan to attack Mayweather's weaknesses.

The reason why Joe Frazier had so much sucess attacking Ali was because he came in at him low, dipping and dodging, going to the body and punching around and under his guard.

You're going to try and jab and react against a quicker, faster, more skilled fighter which is what Canelo essentially did????

NO! You dip and you dodge, and you come at him low applying steady and fast pressure.
You try to suffocate Mayweather not stand center ring trading jabs and giving a thinker room and time to think.

It was dissapointing to see that Canelo's plan was to box center ring in a controlled type of tempo.

Certain situations require going out of your comfort zone and taking some risks, Canelo did no such thing.

 

my God you're so full of ****

you're a joke

 

Canelo did do the best he could under the plan he employed.
In fact, I would have thought the fight would have been more one sided and not competitive at all the way Canelo went about at Floyd, but he actually did better than I would have thought.

You dont attack full tilt in that pressure attacking style. There's ways and techniques to rest on the inside. Watch Joe Frazier fights. When he was punched out, he rested by just crossing his arms and dodging.
He'd lean on the ropes and invite you to hit him while he slipped and dodged.
Tired of punching? Go to the ropes and slip and dodge while your arms rest........that type of thing.

Not easy to try it out on Mayweather, but Canelo had a better chance of being sucessful doing that than boxing center ring with a master quicker and faster than he.

 

:deal

 

You are still failing to acknowledge the stamina required to be successful with that style against world class competition...not to mention the p4p #1 fighter in the world.
You are posting the same stuff over and over and using example of other fighters who have been successful, assuming that every fighter will ultimately be able to attain the same level of conditioning with the same training and that just isn't the case. Build has a lot to do with it since muscles require oxygen to function properly.

 

What it boils down to is that Canelo came in with a poor gameplan based on his normal style of fighting and couldn't adjust. It's a sad thing to say, but most fighters(especially today) don't deviate from their normal style even when it's clear they won't win with it. Canelo simply doesn't have the gear to turn himself into a pressure fighter, he's a counterpuncher first and foremost, which is why he was destined to lose this matchup the moment it was signed. Floyd is too fast, too smart, and takes too few risks for any current fighter around his weight class to try to win a counterpunching match with him. If you saw Canelo struggling with frankly far lesser boxer-types in Trout and Gomez, arguably losing to Trout and getting a very fishy stoppage in the other where he was looking bad, it was obvious Floyd would take him to school.

 

Fighters need conditioning and stamina no matter what style they fight in.

Boxing center ring requires just as much stamina if you want to be sharp with your punches. If you dont have good stamina at center ring you end up pushing your shots instead of snapping them.

I agree, build has alot to do with whether or not you can fight pressing the action.
Canelo is'nt a tall slippery type, he has the perfect build to fight on the inside. You condition your muscles for it during training camp.
The plan should have been to take the fight to close quarters, thus Canelo should have had slippery type sparring partners to work with and he should have been working at cutting the ring off and taking the slippery types to the ropes.
He should have practiced leaning on a fighter and infighting.

I agree its a tall task to ask of a fighter who is'nt accustomed to fighting in that style. All I'm saying is that what I describe is the only way Canelo could have beaten, not competed, "beaten" Mayweather.


I imagine that a good trainer worth his salt would have explained to Canelo, "this is how you can beat Mayweather, you dont want to use this plan, you're not beating him boxing center ring. Either you dip low and apply good pressure by doing x y and z, or you just show up for a payday, you chose!"

Easier said than done, I know, but it was the only realistic chance for Canelo to have taken Mayweather's O!

For Gods sake, its not like asking feather fisted strictly boxing type Paul Malignaggi to follow that gameplan, you'd be asking a young, strong, exellent body punching Canelo Alvarez to do it.
His ****ing idol is ****ing Julio Cesar Chavez for God's sake, so you cant tell me he has'nt a semblance on how to go about it.

 

Coulda, woulda, shoulda...

 

First, of all that game plan resulted in the opponent getting tko'd.

Secondly, Much like Fraiser/Ali Chavez was significantly shorter than Mayweather. Canelo would have been target practice for Floyd trying that.

 

That's what every clown says when a fight is over with.