Canelo does not look like a puncher at middleweight

I think the OP may want to take a nother look at Chavez's face, or better yet rewatch the fight lmao.

"Never seemed to phase Chavez" ?? lol then why was he backing up / retreating the entire fight?

 

Jacobs? he did worse in his sparring session against Truax. At least Canelo did the smart move in getting a 185lb punching bag instead of a 165lb one like Traux.

 

Chavez said, in spanish, that Canelo's power and speed were too much and didn't want to get hit. Can't say the same for Andy Lee. Chavez danced and laughed at Lee's punches in that fight, and Lee has 1 punch KO power in his left hand. I think Canelo's power is fine.

 

Nothing new, Canelo is not a big puncher. He has decent power, and some highlight reel KOs over guys with weak chins. He showed better power at WW, but even then it was because of the opposition level.

He has solid, unspectacular skills and decent power.

 

Nduo was a tough fighter. I saw him give Cotto hell back in 2004 in a fight that could have went either way on a REAL scorecard and not one ensuring Cotto remained undefated. Mosley had one of the best chins ever. Yeah Pac hurt him(roided Pac) but other than that and Forrest, how often has Mosley been hurt in his career? Yall acting like Chavez jr's chin is trash. He's never been stopped at mw. The only time he was stopped is at 175, 2 weight classes above 160. If you want to talk about overrated power, you have a a guy in Jacobs that's been stopped by 1 punch before and dropped by Mora, but GGG couldnt knock him out? haha. ****, he went toe to toe with him in rounds.

 

Pretty much. Canelo isn't feather-fisted but is not a big puncher either.

The thing about the Mosley fight that surprised me is that Mosley didn't shell up, at all, despite taking clean flush shots from Canelo. Mosley usually went into a defensive shell when he'd take flush shots and was getting beaten. He could physically take good punches, but mentally it would change him, he'd be more defensive, hold more, look for singular shots.

Against Forrest, particular the rematch when he just looked intimidated and wouldn't let his hands go. Against Wright, especially the first fight, he went into a defensive shell. In the rematch with DLH, he was often reluctant to throw and even said in the corner "he has a quicker hook than me". He didn't do it as much against Cotto, he did hold a lot though. He looked scared to throw against Floyd and Manny because of the incoming.

However, against Canelo, there wasn't any of this. He didn't seem too worried at all about the bombs coming his way. And this was an older Mosley than all the other ones mentioned, and at WW.

Alvarez has to rely on other things. He has a solid skillset and puts his punches together well. He's fairly fluid in his combos, and mixes it well from body to head. He has to hit hard and flush enough to get GGG's respect though. Alvarez's legs and movement are heavy and on the slow-side, he's not going to suddenly turn into a master of angles and movement like a Pernell Whitaker.

 

Yeah, you're in complete denial lol. "Unspectacular skills"? I think you need to get your eyes checked. He was lighting up Chavez with spectacular punches from a multitude of angles.

 

Nice effort, but trolling is better when you are funny.

 

Trolling? You're the one with the name Thread Stealer. There's nothing unspectacular about Canelo. You're completely delusional if you seriously think that.

 

I also thought the scoring for N'Dou vs Cotto was Bull****. In another fight at 140, N'Dou was dropped twice, and probably the only reason he wasn't stopped that night was because the guy broke his hand on N'Dou's face. If Canelo was really a power puncher like that, he would have stopped the much smaller man. I don't disagree regarding Mosely's chin, the Pac knockdown seemed fishy to me. Forrest did blast him though. If Canelo was a real puncher, he should have at least been able to drop an old Mosely. Canelo couldn't do much as far as hurting Angulo either. Chavez's chin isn't trash. I'm just saying that Alvarez's power is a bit over rated.

 

I don't take much credit on the Mosley fight. First Mosley always had an iron chin, you seem to downplay that. Yes Mosley was older against Canelo but chin isn't something that ages as quickly as other things (unless you've taken beatings, which although in tough fights Mosley was never destroyed before).

You mention DLH, Forrest, and Wright. But those were different styles. Mosley was shorter and a flashy fighter with no jab, where as all the other guys had bigger, lengtheir and used reach. It would make sense for him to conserve his punches or else he'd overreach and get countered. Against Canelo he was on equal size setting, and Canelo's more stationary non pressuring approach would lend itself for Mosley to punch more.

But most importantly you forget to factor in size. Mosley was a LIGHTWEIGHT! He had moved up two weight classes to fight DHL and the others, of course their punches would hurt him...he was naturally smaller since his body was still growing into that weight classes (even if it was a few years after). By the time he fought Canelo he had grown his full size.

Oh and lets not forget Canelo was young and had only left welterweight himself a few years prior.

 

Canelo had just barely moved to 154 that very year against N'Dou. He was bigger but not as much as it seems. Especially since N'Dou himself had moved to welterweight a year prior.

 

Dude's got one hell of a chin. I doubt Triple G could stand up to those bombs Canelo landed . . .