Canelo finally lists his price for fighting Benavidez: $150 or 200 million

I don't need to produce a quote when there's a whole video out there of Arum saying what I posted word for word. You're just stirring over semantics at this point. What Canelo did was reference the biggest offers out there, as the biggest fighter in the sport. You really believe it's a coincidence that the 2 numbers he said match the range of Arums interview exactly? Just out of the blue? And you still, over so many posts can't give me a reason it's a problem beyond you don't like Canelo.

 

Canelo can ask for what he wants... so long as he's at a negotiation table and knows how much the Saudis are putting up for the fight. How can you ask for 200 million if they are only putting up 100? The point is to NOT sign to fight Jaime Munguia, get your ass to the table, and work out the percentage split based on what is being allocated towards the fight.

Canelo was in hiding for months, even became a free agent, and had ample time to try and negotiate something. He hasn't.

I find that you are just too stubborn to realize the nuanced differences between a negotiated percentage split and a number pulled out from someone's ass... while that person pisses on the idea of fighting the opponent in question and calls him a nobody.

The Saudis have demonstrated no particular interest in Canelo Alvarez, nor has he in them. He has admited that 60 million isn't enough to fight Benavidez and countered with an astronomical figure that is not feasible unless the guarantors don't care about losing money.

The Saudis may well lose on Fury/Usyk, but that's the fight they want.

...Do they even want Canelo?

 

We have fans of boxing correctly calling this a duck.

Then we have fans of businessmen talking about how it's a smart business decision.

Personally I don't care how much potential earnings Canelo has.

 

Fans can call it a duck, but fans can also recognize that he is fighting another undefeated fighter in his prime in Munguia who has more wins than Benavidez, has been more active and his been arguably more impressive throughout his career than Benavidez.

We all want to see Canelo Benavidez, or Benavidez vs the winner of Canelo vs Munguia. But at the same time Canelo continues to challenge himself against top competition. So I understand the criticism of Canelo not fighting Benavidez, but at the same time he does deserve credit for taking on Munguia.

If he beats Munguia, there seems to be a chance that he'll fight Benavidez in September, at least according to Benavidez. if Canelo ends up fighting Munguia and Benavidez back to back it would be hard to criticize that. So I would say, put your outrage on hold, we have a great fight in May, and lets see what happens there and after that. What if Munguia upsets Canelo and becomes Undisputed? Then we could see Munguia vs Benavidez which would also be a great fight.

 

The place where you will continue to be upset is thinking your plan for his fights matters more than his own lol. It was never the plan to fight him in May, there has never been any indication of it. Also you blindly believe real negotiations happen in the public and over youtube videos wtf. Quiet time is when fights get made not when you see smear interviews everywhere, especially when it comes to Alvarez. The guys been a star for over a decade, I'd say that's more than enough time to see and undersrand how he moves. It's been funny as hell watching you squirm unable to address why it's OK for Tyson to expect that much money and not the bigger star in Canelo though. Still not a single reason besides cause you don't like him.

 

I'm beginning to wonder if that humiliating beating Dmitry Bivol gave Canelo did more than folk thought. Since then hes been seen prancing around wearing a silly crown claiming to be the King of Boxing!!!! lol Also as the King he can fight who he wants when he wants & there's no one can stop him. He's totally lost all sense of reality in my opinion I think Bivol took Canelo's soul.
Really,in the way he has been protected since he took over the mantle from Floyd, he has had the same free reign too because he took over as Vegas big $$$$$$$$$$$ maker.
All I hope is when Canelo / Munguia do meet that its a good fight with the better man on the night getting the win he deserves & no judging jiggery pokery from either side. No I wont be buying the fight myself but wish them both well May the Best man win

 

Canelo is literally the one negotiating in public. LOL. What are you even talking about at this point?

Show me one fight where a guy publicly asked for a price and got the fight made. Just one. At every juncture in the history the sport, it has been a priceout tactic to either delay or outright prevent a fight from taking place.

Bob Arum is not Tyson Fury. You are hanging on to a second hand quote from Bob Arum because you have no evidence to support your claim that Tyson Fury requested anything outside of negotation... and even Arum was negotiating a purse split, not a number pulled from his ass.

It is fascinating watching you drool while attempting to form a coherent argument.

 

That my friend is called an interview. He answered a question about a fight not even on the table at the moment lol. Bob Arum represents Tyson Fury buddy. And again Arum wasn't negotiating, that was also an interview. Wtf you been watching to think negotiations are taped for all to see? And still no good reason from you.....that boy mad.

 

So now Canelo has been having secret negotiations with Saudis but the details only leak out... when he is fighting someone else.

How much brain rot is necessary to try and rationalize this?

 

I think we need to give Canelo some credit for taking on Munguia. This is a hell of a challenge for Canelo. Since the fight has been announced, this forum has been mostly complaining about him not fighting Benavidez or bizarrely claiming that Munguia doesn't have a chance in hell. I don't know how many of these people really watch the sport, Munguia is 43-0 34 KOs he is an absolute warrior.

I get that people want to see him fight Benavidez but this is a major test for Canelo. The storylines here add a lot of intrigue. On the one hand we have the match being promoted by PBC on the other hand we have Jamie's promoter De La Hoya, former promoter of Canelo before they parted ways.

There's a lot going on here, and on top of everything Munguia represents the biggest threat to Canelo's Undisputed Championship. This matchup is just over one month away. This has all the makings of a 12 round war. CJ I know you've been highly critical of Canelo but this is a great matchup and anyone who loves boxing should be looking forward to this one.

 

The problem is Munguia is in this slot too early. He's had two fights at 168 and was never a champion at 160 or the best guy at 154. He may pull off something special, but he just seems grossly out of place.

 

You guys heard 150-200. All I heard was quack quack. Sounds like a duck

 

I can't tell if you're attempting to draw conclusions or just scribbling on the wall like a madman. Who said any of that? I said it was an interview not a negotiation. You can't negotiate a fight with a no name reporter bro lol. Nobody has a clue if he's ever even met Mr. Excellent. We just know he's the one that ponies up that type of money. You've got a helluva imagination I'll give you that.

 

I truly believe that the only chance Munguia has is to KO Canelo. No way in the world would Vegas let their cash cow lose AGAIN!!!!! Especially to Munguia who is not known like Bivol, Beterbiev or Benavidez & will not generate half the $$$$$ for Vegas that they would
Personally I like Jaime Munguia & I'd love to see him get a fair shake against Canelo with no Judging jiggery pokery. All joking aside I do not believe Canelo is the same fighter since he was humiliated & embarrassed by Bivol . Bivol took his heart & soul , his confidence is gone
Lets just hope its a good fight with the best man on the night getting the win he truly deserves

 

With PEDs, judges, and matchmaking, there are still several boxers in this generation who have clearly beaten Canelo. Without his cheats he is a decent world champion, but not p4p.