Canelo & fixed fights

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Quina74, Nov 17, 2021.


  1. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I appreciate the fact that you're admitting what is obvious and indisputable, which is that Kovalev's performance was anything but 'NORMAL' and his performance was indeed extremely suspicious / fishy.

    One has to at bare minimum, admit that much for me to continue having any more of a discussion about this matter. When one denies this indisputable fact, like the above poster Bandeedo has done, then it's akin to conversing with someone who insists 1+1=3. The indisputable (Kovalev not looking 'normal') simply can't be disputed, if one is to maintain any degree of credibility and integrity. I'll give the benefit of the doubt to that user and assume that user is ignorant and not very knowledgeable at knowing what to look for in a boxing bout, to form such conclusions, rather than assuming they are outright lying and being dishonest despite knowing the truth. But again, the onus is on the people to educate themselves about the sport.

    Coming to your point about Kovalev looking 'tired', I'm not sure I can 100% agree with you, at least as far as foot movement goes. Kovalev pretty much maintained the same intensity and output for the entire 11 rounds, without his output or intensity plummeting or dissipating as the fight continued to progress. Again, repeating what I've already said numerous times, what was unusual was his lack of commitment to his punch. I.E. Stepping into his punches, with his arms fully extended when attempting to land / landing and hitting through the target without pulling back immediately upon making contact. These are the things he wasn't doing.

    Now, I think you make a good point about Canelo's guard being tight and him being a short fighter. However, are you claiming Canelo's guard was the reason why Kovalev could not affect or damage Canelo?
     
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  2. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You may very well be right, and I'm not saying you're wrong, but someone else could come along and claim Kovalev's arms were injured, which was why he wasn't committing to his punches as he normally does, and their claim will have just as much merit as yours. Thus, I require more conclusive evidence before I can infer exactly the cause behind Kovalev's fishy performance.
     
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  3. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    The only one that looked in any way fishy on the face of it was the way Kovelev was tkod. But makes sense when taking into account this was an ill prepared, shot and vodka soaked version of Kovalev.

    Other recent wins have been slow painful beat downs which is the opposite of how a fight is fixed.

    So no. Ginger nuts stacks the decks in his favour but does not fix fights.
     
  4. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Injured in both arms? He was pulling punches with both his jab and right hand. Whoever mentioned that hasn't really got a leg to stand on... Kovalev demonstrated no full extension on any punches, no intent on any punches, minimal hesitation to any counters, minimal lateral and in/out footwork, stood in Canelos range without a care in the world.

    Even Loma who had one fkd shoulder against weight bully 147lber+ Lopez was putting intent, weight on his punches and fully extending.
     
  5. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hit the nail on the ****ing head
     
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    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  7. TISONLYONEKING

    TISONLYONEKING Member Full Member

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    Kovalev fought the way he did in the Canelo fight because he knew he was finished. If I’m not mistaken, Yarde almost took him out prior to him fighting Canelo.

    The fights aren’t fixed. Canelo’s defense has vastly improved from the Mayweather fight on. He slips and rolls with punches really well, also uses his arms really well too.

    I think his opponents are caught off guard when they find he isn’t all that easy to hit.