Canelo, GGG, Hopkins, Martinez and Taylor vs Old School MWs (Sweet Science)

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  1. BCS8

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    Well. The way he defeated Tiberi makes me think that Toney's judges are at least the equal - if not better than - Canelo's judges.
     
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    Actually, a rather biting and smarmy comeback. ;)
     
  3. HerolGee

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    of course not, Tyson was not at his best,, however much you may think he was, we have to go with fact.
     
  4. HerolGee

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    it was better than yours true, but weak in the grand scheme of things.
     
  5. BCS8

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    :drooling:
    Reading Herol's comments is like shaving your brain with a cheese grater.
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That Tyson and AJ thumbnail was pointing at modern heavyweights being bigger not better, this doesn`t apply to middles, the vid was asking how a heavyweight as small as Tyson could have been so much better than heavyweights his size from the past and how he could beat fighters that were around 6'3-6'5 in his prime and how he could compete with super heavies like AJ (before he got beat by a 6'2 fighter).
     
  7. mark ant

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    Hopkins was a master at setting up the right hand, Canelo is more skilled than Toney was and GGG would land far more than Taylor or Martinez would on Toney, those two don`t belong in this company at all.
     
  8. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Youngest Ezzard Charles Fan Ever Full Member

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    I know Hopkins is a master at setting up the right hand, Toney is a master at standing in the pocket and slipping it. It's one of them Defence > Offence situations
    Canelo is not more skilled than Toney

    Any other MW candidates? I was considering Pavlik but I don't know enough about him
     
  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Youngest Ezzard Charles Fan Ever Full Member

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    Watch the video...

    MW section starts at 8:21
     
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    explains a lot, but why is your brain made of cheese?
     
  11. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Youngest Ezzard Charles Fan Ever Full Member

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    Michael Nunn, brutal stoppage, showed his skill even while fighting the wrong fight against a bigger guy who would be top 3, arguably 1 today

    Now show me the one fight where Canelo and GGG beat Toney
     
  12. Badbot

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    Nunn was clearly outboxing Toney.
    A rather bad example.
     
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Youngest Ezzard Charles Fan Ever Full Member

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    Not really, I just watched it.
    1. Toney 10-9 (Toney 10-9)
    2. Even 19-19 (Nunn 10-9)
    3. Nunn 29-28 (Nunn 10-9)
    4. Even 38-38 (Toney 10-9)
    5. Nunn 48-47 (Nunn 10-9)
    6. Nunn 58-56 (Nunn 10-9)
    7. Nunn 68-65 (Nunn 10-9)
    8. Nunn 77-75 (Toney 10-9)
    9. Nunn 86-85 (Toney 10-9)
    10. Nunn 96-94 (Nunn 10-9)
    11. Even 104-104 (Toney 10-8) TOS

    Very competitive fight
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both GGG and Canelo were harder to hit than Nunn was v Toney, he was getting caufgt a lot, very open and wild, GGG would have landed more jabs than Nunn did in that bout. McCallum fought better v Toney than Nunn did.
     
  15. mark ant

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    Nunn was getting caught constantly by counters in that bout and couldn`t land his jab much, he had to fight on the inside which cost him.