Canelo has to weight 152 fight night as well?

Floyd wanted a rehydration clause when he was in talks to fight Winky Wright.

HOYA was apparently bound to one against Pac.

 

Occam's Razor.

The simplest explanation is that Smith and Bayless simply don't understand how weigh-ins actually work because they DKSAB. They are probably just confused. The contracted weight is 152lb at the official weigh-in on Friday, and that's it. Canelo will probably rehydrate up to ~170lb as usual.

 

:good :deal

 

It will never happen though.

It would be extremely dangerous.

Especially with a young fighter like Canelo. He might do the exact same thing for every fight. He might eat the same meal, and drink the same fluids at exactly the same time as he normally does, but he might find himself rehydrating more than he did from the previous fight.

Nobody can say for certain how much someone's going to rehydrate to.

His rehydration weight for Trout was higher than for the Lopez fight.

But we don't know if that was natural or not.

Lets say that a rehydration clause was agreed.

The fighter would constantly be weighing himself after the weigh in, and it would be a huge distraction.

But lets then say, that he'd replenished his body with food and fluids and rehydrated as normal, but when he got weighed before the second official weigh in, he found that he was over the agreed weight.

What would happen? You'd then have a fighter trying to get rid of the excess weight. He'd be trying to dehydrate himself before the fight night weigh in.

You could end up with a dehydrated fighter fighting.

That's why they abolished same day weigh ins.

It could literally have disastrous consequences.

I'd be amazed if we ever saw such a thing.

 

this is the reason why the esb forums need a penalty box.

anyone starting trolling threads should be quarantined from the general population for 30 days.

 

:think

 

I agree it would be absurd for Canelo to have a clause given to prevent him rehydrating past 152.

I just remember it was talked about when Floyd was going to fight Winky and it was too odd that Hoya never blew up against Pac.

Duran used to go to town on french fries and steak after the weigh-in. Id love to know what they actually eat after.

Wlad apparently just eats plain pasta.

 

no such clause with dlh and he has never ever mentioned it.

his body shut down and roach claims to seen hoya have IV's before the fight. his body could not retain fluids.

I also remember(don't have a link) reading that's when he put a large bet on paq(200k+). this was on a gambling forum from someone that apparently worked in the casinos.

 

Was the proposed Mayweather vs. Wright clause that he couldn't rehydrate any higher than what he was on the official scales (under the junior middleweight limit)?

No, it wasn't.

It was an eight-pound allowance. Winky by the next morning (not "fight night" - but @ the morning-of 2nd weigh-in) could only have gained eight additional pounds. So overnight he could only go from 154 to 162 instead of his usual 170, under the proposed stipulation.

That is COMPLETELY different from what people are suggesting here, which is patently absurd, that a boxer not be allowed to gain even an ounce in more than 24 hours.

 

the only other time I can think of a second weigh-in within the fight game is the Anthony Johnson/Vitor Belfort fight that took place in Brazil after Johnson failed to make weight.

johnson was only allowed to weigh-in at no more than 205(I believe) 24 hours after he failed to make his 185 weight.

 

I've not heard about the Winky thing before.

I think Oscar was ill against Manny. He lost the weight too quick, and then only rehydrated by two pounds because his body was depleted. Roach said that he'd rehydrated by 11 pounds against Floyd, and he expected him to rehydrate to around 15 against Manny, due to him dropping below 154. Nobody could believe it when he only rehydrated by 2 pounds.

Yes, I'd also love to know specifically how a fighter rehydrates. I've love to know what they eat and how much they drink. Do they drink just water, or energy drinks? Do they have three meals? What's the latest time they eat before a fight etc?

I'd love some examples.

 

And theres the excuse that he wanted to be as light as he could to compete with Pac. That whole debalce is riddled with myth. Who knows whats true but his body not being able to retain fluids is laughable. Id believe there was a clause in place before i believe that.

 

Morning 2nd weigh-ins are not that uncommon, really, there have been more - but they're meant to include a reasonable allowance for the athletes to regain some fluids etc. For instance, Mayweather would've let Winky rehydrate 8lbs which isn't outrageous by normal standards...however, for Winky, accustomed to cutting lots of weight and beefing up twice as much as that on the eve of a fight, it would have been rough and that may have factored into negotiations falling apart.

 

I dont know the details in full. They wanted Winky to control his weight gain by 10 pounds?

 

Freddie claims to have seen the IV in Hoyas arm, which would mean that oscars body shut down and was not functioning.


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why would Freddie lie?

what would be his reasoning?

it could also be construed as slander by hoya if Oscar never had the IV where Freddie could be sued(he quickly retracted his jmm accusation of steroid use).

the only thing laughable is you not believing Roach when Freddie has no ulterior motive to say otherwise.