Canelo: "I watched the fight back. I won by 2 rounds"

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Stopped reading after (fact)
     
  2. Gennady

    Gennady Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So what's the score Boxing Junkie? Or you know it better then the WBO judges? They watched the fight back in slow motion and scored it 8-4. That was the opinion of 90% percent of the boxing world, maybe 7-5, but still GGG won the fight.
    Don't count those punches which landed on Golovkin's defence, but the Mexican crowd was cheering for that. Or it was nice for sure, when Canelo was moving quick and made Golovkin miss a few times, but still, he didn't hit back.
     
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  3. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Isal's head is too firmly planted in Canello's but. He is incapable of being remotely objective. Hell he thinks 10-2 was a reasonable scorecard.. that says all you need to know about him.
     
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  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Instead of talking **** like a little ***** why don't you tell me where I'm not being objective. I would gladly engage you in a civil debate.

    I not ONCE said the Byrd's card was reasonable. In fact I said she clearly had a bias for Canelo's work.
     
  5. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I'll need a link for WBO statement please.

    The score is a Split Draw. I personally had it 6-6 being completely unbias, and by being completely unbias I mean I gave GGG all the rounds between 4-9, even the ones where Canelo landed the harder cleaner punches. Its very hard to give GGG rounds 1-3 and 10-12.

    When I score it based on who had better defense, who landed the cleaner harder punches, ring generalship, and effective aggression, the fighter who missed 70% of his punches loses on my card 7-5, even 8-4.

    Unlike many GGGoons and Canelo haters, I am a boxing fan first and understand boxing is subjective, meaning one person can judge a fight differently, its why we have 3 judges. I can accept anyones card who has it 6-6, 7-5 either way, and even 8-4 either way if I factor in bias in any direction.

    If you want to say Canelo lost, that's fine, just put up a good argument instead of just talking ****.

    If you want to debate this we totally can. I'll argue that Canelo swept rounds 1-3, and 10-12. We'll start there how about that. Canelo landed the "harder cleaner punches" in those six rounds, and Canelo also demonstrated a higher quality "defense", in those rounds. Canelo fought his fight showing very good "ring generalship" in those six rounds, in rounds 1-3 he was frustrating GGG with exceptional boxing making the "monstrous" power puncher very timid to thrown anything of significance, and in rounds 10-12 he demonstrated he could finish stronger, and had GGG literally following him around the ring in straight lines and countering him with nasty clean hard punches. Golovkin was definitely the aggressor in the fight, however, I would not by any means say GGG demonstrated "effective aggression" when you consider he missed nearly 70% of his punches, and when he was the one that was getting hit with clean power punches
    more consistently.

    I'll stop there and wait for you to reply.
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wait a minute, don't try to turn the tables. Whether IsaL thinks Canelo won 8-4, whether you think it was 8-4 Golovkin, neither of those are "facts" lol. You stated that 8-4 Golovkin was a "fact". To even be in the ballpark of a "fact" that score would have to *at least* be within the range of the judges, which it wasn't.

    I don't know where you're pulling the "90% of the boxing world" having it 8-4 Golovkin from, that's a completely made-up number. Then you backtrack realizing you're reaching "maybe 7-5" oh OK maybe you're just making all this stuff up based on an big exaggeration of the 100 or so media scores topic, which wasn't even close to 90% Golovkin winning let alone winning 8 rounds to 4.

    There were some WBO judges who watched it back and had it 8 rounds to 4? They watched it in slow-motion?
     
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  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The popular belief amongst the Golovkin fanbase that Golovkin swept rounds 4-9, while arguable, is highly impractical. In such a competitive prize fight, the chances of a judge giving 6 rounds in a row to a fighter, especially a fighter that is getting hit with so many bombs is just not likely.
     
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  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    The anger most fans have with this fight is the 118-110 scorecard, which is a terrible score, but also that Canelo outperformed almost everyone's expectation especially those vocally rooting against him (the majority of fight fans on boxing forums). He faced boxing's most popular fighter. He was said to have no chance of competing. Many felt he had no chance of surviving 12 rounds. The hate that follows is understandable. It was a great razor close fight and lets hope the rematch is too.
     
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  9. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wonder if he might be slightly biased.
     
  10. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    Good to hear. That's what I've thought all along. There are so many people on either side that are convinced of 'their' fighters total dominance. It was a close fight and I think there were up to 4 rounds that could have easliy been scored for either fighter.
     
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  11. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    Another Adelaide Byrd type scorecard would hurt boxing's credibility so much. Farce like that turns people away from the sport. Doesn't just ruin reputations but the people who leave take their money with them. Boxing will be poorer in both senses if another disputed decision occurs.
     
  12. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    LOL

    I have yet to provide....WTF do you think you are?

    Listen some of us out there have lives and jobs that supersede fanatical worship of pasty, ginger haired Mexicans.

    I'll watch the fight....again....over the weekend and get back to you.

    As for the fighters you listed, Lara was all mouth and never even attempted to move up.

    What excuse did GGG have for Canelo?

    As for Trout....don't make me laugh the guy is C level at best.....but go on entertain me.....what alleged excuse did GGG use to avoid him?......LMFAO.
     
  13. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    LMAO

    What country do you live in.

    I live in Kentucky, Divided States of South Amoronica.

    The leader of my country has proven that the earth is flat, and that 2+2=5.

    Alternative facts land.
     
  14. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Bannot take the FACTS the truth can you
     
  15. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh he’s positively subjective compared to Shadow lol although that’s not saying much is it lol.

    You know what gets me about it?Its how his fans and now it would appear Canelo himself presume that because months have past it somehow changes the result lol so it’s gone from Canelo getting booed at ringside by his own fans apparently and em cheering on GGG when those awful cards were read out.
    How is it that this very sheepish looking Canelo after the fight has suddenly discovered that he actually won by two rounds himself lol even though this went against every commentator in every network that covered it,they all had by consensus a GGG win albeit in not very impressive fashion.
    Are Canelo fans so optimistic that over a few months Canelo gives em a bone to play with and they just take it without question lol.

    One other point does anyone know of another boxer where the commentators try their utmost to find something to give him rounds?so even if he’s only done twenty seconds of action it’s a done deal that they give him the round,how can that be right?
     
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