Canelo: "I watched the fight back. I won by 2 rounds"

I had Lemieux Saunders 6-6.
Saunders ran the while fight.

 

I agree with you, man. It would be much more respectable of him to admit that he lost the fight. It would also be refreshing because it is not something we see often in fighters today. I guess what I meant is that I expected him to view the fight that way, but as for faulting him for it I think you are right. We should hold people accountable for their erroneous views and fighters do not deserve an exemption from that.

 

Her bias was like IsaL said, that she scored rounds for whoever landed the cleaner punches. You take it a step further by saying that she had bias for a Canelo win which as a reasonable Canelo fan I can't let that slide. I just can't. Her bias was for a particular style preference, which is backed up by a majority of her fights that she scored in favor of counter punchers who landed the cleaner punches, while not as active as the other fighter. (for example having Hopkins over Calzaghe)

As you know I had the fight in the ballpark of a 8-4/7-5 Canelo win, so I'm not in any way defending her 10-2 card (lets be clear on that), but for the sake of argument, in your mind, which specific rounds did G win so clearly that arguing that Canelo won them is completely unreasonable? That's the way you can test whether or not 10-2 is legit / reasonable. In fights with so many close rounds, there is a range of scores that can be considered reasonable. And to produce an "unbiased" range, it's not just you coming out and saying 10-2 is too wide, you need to cite specific rounds that G won so clearly that Canelo cannot be argued to have won them. (if you can produce more than 2 of those such rounds, then you can make that argument)

There weren't too many rounds like that as far as I can tell, but at the same time Canelo wasn't winning many rounds clearly either, you had several rounds that both fighters were doing well in their areas of strengths (clean punching for Canelo, out-voluming for TG) which are candidates for drawn rounds or splitting rounds.

 

I wouldn't even say he had better Stamina than Canelo. He was breathing much heavier than Canelo in the later rounds. It was just that Canelo became winded in spurts which affected his output and was more noticeable since his style relies on high levels of conditioning.

More specifically, G's punch output doesn't require as much energy as Canelo's punch output does. Producing flashy heavy counter punches, uppercuts, and upper body movement to slip punches, etc requires more stamina than just coming forward and throwing jabs and an occasional straight right hand.

So people notice when Canelo became winded because he had to stall and back away here and there. But he was able to recuperate and get that energy bar back up pretty quickly. While G was consistently fatigued in the 2nd half of the fight to where all he could do is come forward throw basic jabs / right hands that were mostly being blocked or slipped. Canelo as the more entertaining flashy puncher needs more stamina to produce those highlight reel moments. G can be more fatigued and still produce the same level of basic punches so his stamina issues are not as noticeable. But if you look at how hard he was breathing in the later rounds, how red his face was getting, etc then you start to see it.

 

i am sick and tired of this clown canelo talking utter bull**** all him and his team do is talk talk talk about utter nonsense. GGG won that fight clearly and was robbed of a victory by a bunch of scum.

 

Adelaide Byrd should be made to watch the fight back several times and then have to answer the obvious question - wtf ?

 

That what Bob Bennett said was going to be done but we all know he is a liar.

 

I could not have said it better. Actually this thread looked intriguing to me and I planned on reading the posts but just found myself getting bored. it is the same things over and over again and alarmingly with time as i predicted this draw/close fight narrative is started to become accepted.

Shame how gullible and easily influenced people are who just seem to forget ignore or get molded into believing what these criminals want them to believe. Bottom line: GGG won at least 8 rounds of that fight possibly 10 despite internal and external gymnastics commanding the weak minded and prejudiced to claim otherwise.

 

That is because she has scored fights for decades and actually knows how to apply criteria and score but in this instance her card was predetermined. She followed NSAC orders and played ball intentionally scoring the fight wide for Alvarez. Having a ide card like hers takes the focus of the other two which were not very good either especially that draw from Trella who scored GGGs most dominant round of the fight for Alvarez.

This was nothing more than a high stakes shell that most turn a blind eye to and sadly it will be repeated in a few months at the same place by the same cast of criminals.

 

Gassiev isn't ready doe.

 

LOL, ya'll triggered.

 

Judging boxing is subjective. Depending on what style and punch output you prefer, you could produce a wide range of scores. You obviously score rounds to the fighter who throws more punches and is constantly coming forward, I on the other hand, score rounds to the guy who impresses with the more clean, hard punches and makes the opponent miss with upper body movement.

Bottom line : there are two distinct ways to see a fight this close. There is a range of reasonable scores averaging at about a draw, but in my view 10-2 is a bit much and comes off as biased. Anything between 8-4 Canelo and 8-4 Golovkin seems reasonable to me, and whoever you favor comes down to the style you prefer. If you prefer coming forward and throwing a lot of punches, you score it for Golovkin, if you prefer counter punching and counting the punches that actually land clean, you score it for Canelo.

Neither fighter was convincing enough to claim a robbery. Hopefully in the rematch we see a fighter impose their will in a more convincing manner so we don't have another disputed decision.

 

I did score round 7 to G as well because G landed so many clean jabs. I think it was his most dominant round in that sense. Canelo's defense wasn't what it was that round compared to the other rounds. However G still got hit with a big uppercut towards the end and Canelo landed a good amount of jabs himself. If it was such a dominant round for Golovkin, why did Abel Sanchez scold Golovkin when he came back to the corner worried that G didn't finish the round strong, saying that Canelo won the later part of the round? If that's the most dominant round for Golovkin, a round that Sanchez scolds Golovkin for not finishing the round the way he should have, then that tells you all you need to know about how many dominant rounds Golovkin had. (not many lol)

 

I have a feeling that both are going to go for the stoppage in the rematch. I hope for, as well as predict, increased aggression from both sides.

GGG - We all know why, he likely believes a stoppage is his only path to victory.

Canelo - If the fight is close, and Canelo gets the win again, it will further the corruption narative and his career could take a big hit. This is a man with a lot of pride, and I think he wants to really make a statement.

I'll be taking the under if it is 9.5