Canelo: "I watched the fight back. I won by 2 rounds"

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  1. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Gennady fans are chumps. Canelo was the more versatile fighter. He landed the most clean, hard shots of the fight. When he went toe to toe, he literally won all exchanges in the fight. G only went to “work” (and I use this term loosely) while Canelo decided to go to the ropes to rest or recover. That “work” was a weak ass, inaccurate jab that barely reddened Canelo’s right eye by the end of the fight.

    No G punch hurt Canelo. G only landed one noteworthy punch in the 5th. G’s gameplan that night was to look busier to the judges. What he totally failed on was actually being effective.

    I keep seeing comments like “G was more aggressive”. That doesn’t even mean a hair off a monkeys balls if you’re not being “effective”. And was G really being aggressive? Why didn’t he commit to power punches and to Canelo’s body when Saul was gassed on the ropes?

    That turn his body around excuse holds no water at all. You guys can’t bs your way out of this. Abel nor Gennady can’t bs their way out of their performance. I haven’t seen anyone take responsibility yet for how badly G has been performing with every step-up-in-competition-fight.

    They’re blaming Vegas. Judges and now even the referee for G’s performance. Can you believe any of this ****. “The ref made me stop throwing body shots even while Canelo had his back on the ropes”. When is common sense going to make a comeback. Once again people since you buy into bs so easily even when the evidence is there right in front of your eyes. I’m selling the Grand Canyon for a cheap price.

    Is it possible that G is overrated? It’s a simple question with a simple answer. Sadly although none of you will admit it. You know deep in your hearts the guy is a hype job not as advertised. He possesses no real p4p skills. Stop supporting bs and again. DM me for details on the Grand Canyon. Smart investment.
     
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  2. HerolGee

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    true but a lot of people rate boxing as attack based, so in equally contested bouts like this, they feel a nod towards the aggeressor in not wholly undeserved.
     
  3. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    Yeah but scoring criteria is “EFFECTIVE AGGRESSION”. That is a fact. Effectiveness is what separates the good and the great. One guy is built off false advertisement with a weak ass resume while the other guy who I don’t even think is that great himself actually has backing against far superior competition.

    There’s no such thing as effortive aggression lmao

    I dgaf what people think. Never did. The proof is right there in front of everyone’s eyes if they choose to see. Walking forward and throwing an inaccurate poosey jab isn’t going to win you a fight especially when the other guy is landing higher quality shots.
     
  4. dinovelvet

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    He was stalking him , but he wasn't producing much aggression inside Canelo's wheelhouse.

    The corpse of Angulo played the part of the aggressor a hell of a lot more than Golovkin did. You can say that GGG played it safer so as not to take such a beating as Angulo did and id agree with that , but the fact is Gulo's ghost still fought a much more aggressive fight.

    GGG knew he had to take it to Canelo and beat him down to win , but was tamed into a fighting a safety first approach behind a jab instead.

    I'll be like an animal for this fight - Gennady Golovkin . He turned up looking like Felix Sturm. :chuck::ghost:
     
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  5. HerolGee

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    i agree with yuor 2nd point that canelo has the better resume, but I dont think Canelo overtly won. He gave as good as he got, albeit largely on the retreat.

    I would agree that defence is a harder art than attack.

    3G is rated as equivalent to elite, not better, based on him matching well with canelo. thats about right. Anyone rating him HoF or ATG is being silly at this point in time.
     
  6. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Last fight he just beat GG up. This time he will ko or clearly dominate GG.
     
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  7. Manfred

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    I didn't see that. What I did see was Canelo shaking his head and saying no when he was hit with that right hand, as if it didn't hurt when that's a true sign that it indeed did hurt. He did it more than once. I would love for him to engage GGG more and whoever falls is cool with me but the odds is in favor of Canelo falling.
     
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  8. shadow111

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    I thought Canelo was shaking his head after the right hand in the 5th because it hit him in the back of the head. It was still a legal punch since Canelo turned his head to the side, but I think his shaking his head there was just his way to say that it didn't land on his face or even on the side. And I don't think that punch really hurt him. As far as who shook their head more after being tagged, it was clearly Triple G. I remember several times that Triple G shook his head to play off being hit by Canelo. He did that more times than Canelo did.
     
  9. OvidsExile

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    Most people saw it 8-4 Golovkin. Guys who say a draw is fair are idiots.
     
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  10. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I'd say the opposite. Landing punches on a skilled boxer who is always moving away either backwards or sideways has got to be harder than avoiding punches by backing up. Of course, which is harder changes depending on the physical vectors of the two boxers. As they approach aggression becomes easier, as they part defense becomes easier. If both stand still and punch then attack and defense are equally difficult.

    Why do you think defense is harder than attack?
     
  11. drenlou

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    It doesn't necessarily mean he's hurt. It just means he got hit clean, and he acknowledged it. Cotto hurt him more so back in '10 than GGG did in their last fight.
     
  12. STEPHEN1990

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    Lol the same question is Canelo overrated because every time his stepped up he hasn't once looked great and struggled unless his fighting washed up former champions or smaller fighters apart from cotto all the step ups could have been losses that's what Canelo fanboys don't get
     
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  13. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    :lol: You're the same guy who was justifying Wards robbery in his initial encounter with Kovalev and here you are spewing nonsense on about effective aggression when Ward showed none yet you painted that as a clear the victory for Ward

    Your hypocrisy and hatred towards GGG couldn't be more transparent. ''False advertisment' :lol: He does what it says on the tin ''destroy opponents''

    He is the only fighter who has been capable of making Canelo run and retreat. Not even your beloved Floyd coud accomplish such a feat.

    GGG showed the entire world in that one fight, that it was indeed possible, to bully the bully.
     
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  14. IsaL

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    Yet you failed miserably to refute anything he said in that post.
     
  15. IsaL

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    No one overrates Canelo. In fact most of you said Canelo would be KO by GGG.. In fact most of you said:

    Canelo would never fight Trout, Lara, Golovkin, or give Golovkin the rematch.