Canelo is going to **** GGG up

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  1. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Lemieux is as basic as they come with zero defense, he makes Canelo look like sweet pea.

    Canelo can slip the jab and counter, something Lemieux isn't capable of, I can see GGG getting frustrated with the jab and abandoning it like he did against Brook.
     
  2. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    That picture doesn't really tell the story of the fight...
     
  3. BCS8

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    So you agree that he landed his shots and knocked Jacobs down?

    Stay tuned for September :deal:
     
  4. BCS8

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    LOL

    Just remember that you're going to need a tipper truck to bring credit to Golovkin in September.

    You should also write to Canelo and tell him that the best way to beat Golovkin is to lay back on the ropes and counter him from there ;)
     
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  5. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I see Golovkin's jab zoning in on Ginger face on a regular basis....Canelo is very easy to hit.!!!!
     
  6. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    What's funny? Can we not analyze this fight without upsetting sensitive GGG fans?
     
  7. Kevin Valencia

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    What? Of course he scored a KD, rd 4. And so did Mora a JrMW, rd 2, and Dimitri Pirog KTFO.. And you're bragging about it?

    Thats like bragging Ggg KO Rosado or Tapia. Who hasn't??
     
  8. alexland

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    i see it this way

    first, there is large variance in age-related decline among professional athletes.

    what's more, committed professionals--students of their craft--which i certainly believe GGG is, translate their experience into more ring smarts.

    the questions, in my view are: is there evidence of age-related decline in GGG, and even if there is, is it at this point, substantial enough to offset his rate of improvement due to experience?

    maybe others see evidence of GGG slowing down

    i've been following boxing for over two decades and it seems to me there are a few factors which substantially contribute to age-related decline:
    • style: quickness is the first to go, power is the last (eg, George Foreman);
    • difficulty of making weight: hard training and nutrition deprivation don't mix well--my guess is that both the psychological stress of hard training and not being able to consume all of the calories you would otherwise need, as well as the chronic physical stress placed on the body caused by numerous rapid weight fluctuations
    • getting knocked out or knocked down
    • overwall wear-&-tear: ie, total fights, total rounds
    • lifestyle between camps: one fighter i used to follow was Ricky Hatton; i believe he only fought once after the age of 31, a knock-out loss which ended his attempted come-back. No idea whether his lifestyle was a contributing factor though. It's well known though that his weight shot way up between fights.
    • motivation to continue fighting: ie, has the fighter achieved all he set out to do and if not does he think he can still get where he wants to be if he continues?

    so applying this to GGG, he relies on bone-shattering power in both hands and ring IQ--this is a style that will age well; he's never been knocked out or even knocked down; who apparently walks around at 165 - 170 (stays in excellent shape all year around and he trains at altitude); and obviously has no trouble making weight--he's a very small middleweight (his 30-day weigh-in for the Brook fight was 165).

    GGG turned pro relatively late (2006) after a long amateur career; in amateurs, you don't get paid but you do get a lot of experience with less physical wear--bigger gloves, head gear, stricter rule enforcement, shorter fights. To date, he's had 37 pro fights but only 172 rounds; that's about four and a half rounds per fight.

    and finally, GGG loves boxing. In 2010, GGG cut ties with his former management (UBP) in Germany and moved to the US. That fresh-start, or second began less than seven years ago. Pretty clearly GGG's career trajectory hasn't reached a plateux, if anything it's breaking upward
     
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  9. alexland

    alexland student of the sweet science Full Member

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    this right here

    even the Jacobs fight, which went 12 rounds, GGG won the last two (in the 12th, Jacobs was content to hold every chance he got and wait for the final bell); and when the fight ended, GGG walked back to his corner ( no emotion whatever) and Jacobs collapsed on the ropes.
     
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  10. Birmingham

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    Bone shattering power ??? I disagree. GGG is the evidence of a proper amateur career and a honed punching style. His balance footwork, timing and ring iq are what makes his punching so effective. Heavy puncher, yeah definite, but hes no one shot ko specialist or bone crunching. I agree with everything else and also the weight, he is a below average size middle imo and would be crazy to move up
     
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  11. BCS8

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    Well now, that's a bit of a difference from:

    :angel2:

    At least you've watched Jacobs / Golovkin now.

    Jacobs would murder Canelo, btw.
     
  12. BCS8

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    We agree 100%. Golovkin only goes all out on guys that have no punching power and that pose no threat to him. Otherwise he picks his shots and is always thinking. A pleasure to watch.
     
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  13. Birmingham

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    Jacobs would defo murder him, wouldn't go the distance imo
     
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  14. alexland

    alexland student of the sweet science Full Member

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    well i didn't use the term literally, but i suppose in GGG's case, it does literally apply:

    GGG broke Brooks eye-socket with a single punch (rd 1) and also with one punch broke two of Matthew Macklin's ribs.

    i thinnk he also broke Martin Murray's nose, but i'm not sure; in any event, Murray did say in his post-fight that GGG is the hardest puncher he's ever been in the ring with.
     
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