Canelo is moving up to CRUISERWEIGHT

Max tells the truth!

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Yeah but he avenged those losses. Your man got beat by an ancient Floyd who at no point was in any trouble AND THAT's A FACT. Also got outpunched twice by pensioner GGG and needed the judges TWICE AND THAT'S A FACT.

 

Maybe Floyd's resume is better right now but after Canelo KO's a cruiserweight champ the argument will be harder to make. I'm sure Makabu will say he's happy to fight at 190 because he knows he wouldn't get the fight otherwise. If Canelo (a massive weight cutter anyway) weight draining himself a further 2 lbs didn't matter then why would it even be in the contract? Weight-draining negatively effects every aspect of athletic performance and it looks to me like Canelo has come on leaps and bounds since he was 23 in terms of skill, high level experience, confidence and physical maturity while being much heavier and no less athletic. Again, if Mayweather could move up to middleweight and beat Golovkin (let alone any higher to fight Ward, Kovalev etc.) then he would have done so: he didn't have a problem with jumping weights but he was always very strategic in his choices of opponents and the terms on which he fought, much like Canelo. Rustico Torrecampo and Boonsai Sangsurat don't get massive credit for everything Pacquiao did many years down the road because they starched him in 3 rounds. Mayweather (who was a significant favourite) gets credit for beating the Canelo who got a controversial decision against Austin Trout in his previous fight, not the Canelo who beat up and KO'd Plant.

 

Beating Tony and getting KTFO by Tony are far from the same thing—-JESUS even you and Ray Charles can see that…RIGHT?

 

I say the FM that beat the 23 year old Canelo would have beaten the Canelo that KO'd plant. FM's victory is aging very well, even better than Calz win over Bhop. If you look at Mayweathers collective body of work, it is pretty impressive. Many guys he defeated went on to regain belts. Corrales, Castillo, Hatton, Canelo, Marquez, Cotto, Pac. Look at these guys. Not bad.

 

If weight-hopping Floyd could have beaten a real champ at 160 then why didn't he do it? Obviously because he didn't believe that he could. Floyd beat a weight-drained version of the 23 year old who got a controversial decision against Austin Trout, a good win but nothing amazing. And as an A-side point fighter who always fought in Vegas, he always got the rub of the green even when he lost, much like Canelo today.

 

Floyd was "ancient" at 36 whilst universally recognized as the P4P #1? Please. That's an absurd exaggeration. You know full well that Floyd was still at the top of his game when he fought Canelo. Trying to pretend like he was ancient that night is complete nonsense.

As far as Canelo needing the judges twice against GGG. Well yeah, judges sure are needed when a match goes 12 rounds. Hey guess who else needed the judges? Floyd when he beat Canelo. Outpunched by GGG twice? Not really, outvolumed in the first fight, in the rematch outjabbed but GGG was outslugged in rematch with power shots and was outboxed for large portions of the first match. Also GGG needed a late comeback just to make the rematch close.

As far as Lewis avenging those losses, he sure did. Canelo never had the opportunity to avenge the Mayweather loss because Mayweather refused to rematch him, and it wasn't a KO loss like with Lewis. Mayweather also refused to fight him straight up without a catchweight and that's fact too. But I bought up Lewis being KO'd twice to compare it to Makabu who was KO'd by Bellew. Bellew himself was stopped by Stevenson a loss which he never avenged but he still went to have success in the sport. Bellew went on to stop David Haye twice. Granted Haye was past it by then but the point is that certain fighters, especially fighters at higher weights like Cruiser or Heavyweight have overcome bad KO losses and gone on to have good careers. So we can't write Makabu off simply because he had a bad night against Bellew and got stopped.

 

He had already gotten a belt at 154. His 5th division. Canelo is only a 4 division champ. In the long history of boxing, there are only 2 guys that have gotten belts in more divisions than Floyd. Let that sink in. And here you are asking why Floyd didnt fight Golovkin at 160? Now, if Canelo gets a strap at cruiser, then it may be enough to pass FM. Time will tell.

 

But who will pay Canelo $40 mil to fight an unknown cruiserweight?

 

It means he's not very good if he got rinsed by Bellew in 3. Secondly the overall consensus is GGG was robbed definately once possibly twice. Thirdly Floyd was 36 and WAS past prime then handled the ginger and made him look like an amatuer. And don't say he was green had nearly as many fights unless you concede gingers first 35 fights are meaningless bums which they are.

 

14 September 2013 was the last date when Canelo was an underdog.

 

He was a big underdog against GGG. They said he had no chance. They said he would be destroyed. Then Davidnelo slayed GGGoliath.

 

So Canelo got only two fights who he was the underdog? Mayweather,GGG and that's all? for an ATG that is not very impressive i should say.