Canelo is simply not as good as Cotto

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Peppermint, Nov 10, 2015.


  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,097
    Jul 24, 2004
    Canelo's last fights were against Trout, Mayweather, Angulo, Lara, and Kirkland.

    Cotto's were against, Mayweather, Trout, Rodriguez, Martinez, and Geale.

    I don't think experience is going to factor, they both have fought good enough competition through the years.

    You want to talk about ability to fight against a moving target?
    Canelo isn't great at cutting a ring, but he did well enough against both Lara and Trout to merit those decisions.

    With Mayweather chosing to fight Cotto, the only real moving target that Cotto has faced through those five fights was Trout, and Trout beat him handily in a non-competitive fight.

    In those 5 fights, Canelo faced 3 really tough style matchups with fighters at the top of their game, Trout, Mayweather, and Lara.
    Cotto's only real A game opposition was Mayweather.

    Canelo has actually faced and beat better opposition in recent years than Cotto has.
     
  2. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

    7,398
    903
    Nov 24, 2012
    Experience is deeper than the last few fights each man has under their belts. You could be right....experience won't play a role in the outcome, however experience is one of the most overlooked metric when forecasting how a fight will pay out in these kinds of match ups.

    The Lara fight could have gone either way but I gave the nod to Nelo. Trout was a great performance by the young Mexican boxer but the big difference in opposition over the years were not that disparate.

    All of the fights that Miguel has won at middleweight were against top guys who held a significant weight advantage over him. Nelo is usually always fighting smaller men who aren't on level with Cotto aside from Mayweather of course.

    The loss Cotto suffered at the hands of Trout was actually a turning point for Cotto. He needed a change and wouldn't have lost if Cotto came in motivated and not looking past a very game and capable Austin. The loss for Cotto rejuvenated his passion that fell complacent. His resurgence has been fun to witness and infused boxing once again with a renewed Miguel Cotto.

    How things play out later in the month will be a true measure of where Cotto is at this stage of his career. He can't take Nelo lightly.....but Nelo can't take Cotto lightly either. Should be a fun fight to watch.
     
  3. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

    26,774
    7
    Jul 25, 2008
    Cotto gonna spank that ass
     
  4. PR BOXING

    PR BOXING Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,669
    12
    Feb 4, 2010
    I agree. Canelos size and weight are his saving grace. The equalizers
     
  5. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,487
    5
    Jun 5, 2008
    Why do you guys keep saying"workrate" Clottley workrate was garbage and IMO beat Cotto!
     
  6. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,487
    5
    Jun 5, 2008
    Spot on.
     
  7. amunz81

    amunz81 Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,184
    70
    May 2, 2006
    IMO Lara Beat Canelo.
     
  8. SOUTHERMOST

    SOUTHERMOST Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,957
    215
    Oct 24, 2006
    My two cents nobody talks about a critical asset "chin" both are heavy punchers who could take a punch better? sure most agreed Canelo for that reason he's the favorite.
     
  9. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,487
    5
    Jun 5, 2008
    IMO Lara schools Cotto.
     
  10. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,097
    Jul 24, 2004
    I get that feeling that most in this forum think Cotto is the better boxer, but oddly enough Floyd Mayweather who has fought them both thinks Canelo is the better boxer.
    There's one down your throat to think about!
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,097
    Jul 24, 2004
    If Austin Trout did, Lara who schooled Trout would embarrass Cotto.
     
  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

    43,439
    12,838
    Apr 1, 2007
    Interesting, but is there any factual basis or proof to this? :think
     
  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

    35,456
    10,439
    Jan 6, 2007

    In actual skill level, Cotto has an edge on the present version of Canelo.


    But it's not enough to offset the deficit in youth, strength, and power.

    He'll be lucky to hear the final bell.
     
  14. whytetittie

    whytetittie Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,768
    8
    Oct 7, 2013
    I just hope Cottos face doesnt start falling apart like cheese dip.
     
  15. Fan88

    Fan88 Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,823
    1
    May 3, 2009
    On nov. 21, 2015, you will see just how much more pure boxing ability, experience, savvy, and ring generalship Cotto possesses when compared to Ginger.