doesnt it get old man arguing about the same **** with the same people you guys will never ever agree on this topic I argue on here from time to time but man its just pointless after a while
lol, a lot of work for zero pay off. i get bored with people who cant follow a string of thoughts. theres just no forward movement in a debate with them, they cant put all the pieces of the puzzle together cause each separate piece is a complete puzzle in itself.
You forgot Odanis. Yeah it gets old, but I'm no quitter, and it takes more energy on hating on a fighter than presenting your case with facts and logic. The thrill of schooling these haters does get cheap after some time, but some comic relief is still generated seeing haters spazz out.
Or a Super Welterweight with no wins in three years and no fights in two years, at the full MW limit.
I don't think anyone ever considered him a reigning champion. Similar to Pacquiao who captured the LW title and bounced the f*** out of there immediately. He gets credit for the title, but no one says he was a great LW champion.