Canelo or GGG, ¿who do you think will be remembered more fondly as the years go by?

And yet here you are, still following me around like a lost puppy.

 

Correct. Ward wanted to let the fight "marinate", Cotto looked like he'd swallowed a frog when a GGG showdown was mooted, Mayweather said GGG was 'easy work' but made sure he stayed the hell far away from a Golovkin fight; Pavlik was 'too big too strong' but when Golovkin said to get it on it was "muh wife, muh new nose"..... etc etc

 

So you're the one quoting me constantly in this thread looking for my attention and I'm the one following you around.

Nice logic you got there buddy.

 

I have no puppy treats in my pocket.

 

If you say so my guy you're the one constantly quoting me in this thread trying to get my attention.

If that's not the definition of a puppy I don't know what is.

 

Still here, eh?

 

Are you confusing Pavlik with Froch?

 

Ach, yes. Duh

 

The discussion has moved on somewhat since I made the above post.

My above post answered the question posed in the thread title directly, i.e. wasn't about who ranked higher, but who will be more fondly remembered. I think Canelo will be more fondly remembered by casual fans because he was higher profile and less fondly by hardcore fans because the highest profile fighters, who are always the "A side" and have the control in selecting their opponents and more leverage when it comes to agreeing the terms, are generally less liked by hardcore fans, whereas I think hardcore fans have some sympathy with GGG because he was a lower profile, feared fighter who was somewhat avoided when he was at his absolute peak.

In terms of ranking on an ATG, P4P list, Canelo will rank higher if quality of opposition beaten is key to your criteria, especially if you factor in success moving up the weights.

That said, GGG should rank higher at MW based purely on fights contested in that division, whilst I think prime for prime GGG was the better H2H fighter. If anything, based on other documented fight night weights, I suspect Canelo was the heavier man when they fought, GGG was already beginning to slide when they first fought and according to this site the media scorecards were 18 to GGG, 3 a draw and 1 to Canelo, which is pretty conclusive imo and just about meets the threshold for a robbery - Gennady Golovkin drew with Saúl Álvarez :: Boxing :: MMA Decisions. GGG had slipped further by the 2nd fight, yet according to this site 10 media scorecards were in his favour to 1 for Canelo, though this time 7 had it a draw - Canelo Álvarez vs. Gennady Golovkin II - Wikipedia.

 

This thread has made me angry over the GGG v Canelo 1 & 2 scorecards all over again.

 

So from what we've gathered.

Golovkin gets rated higher because apparently fighters ducked him. First time I've ever heard a fighter get extra credit for his resume because he apparently got ducked.

Golovkin gets credit for unofficial wins but we ignore his own controversial wins because people say so.

I swear people are numpties I'm never discussing any topic about Golovkin ever again I've lost braincells.

 

It’s Canelo for anyone who doesn’t get overly involved emotionally with male athletes.

 

I'm a bigger fan of GGG but Canelo is easily going to be remembered more in the future due to his bigger popularity, notable names that he's faced, his win over GGG, being undisputed at 168, and being seen as the best fighter for a time. Clearly the greater fighter between the two.

As far as who would be remembered more fondly it's likely going to be GGG due to his less arrogant personality and more exciting style. Plus people being more sympathetic about GGG being screwed over at least one victory over Canelo.