Canelo - Path to Greatness

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, May 13, 2021.

  1. Finkel

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    This is not a Joe Rogan video btw. But by a guy in the body building industry that focusses on discussion about PEDs. The guy runs a HRT clinic.

    Funnily enough I had been watching his content as the depth of discussion he goes into on the subject is quite interesting, didn't know he had made this video until yesterday.
     
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  2. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Going along with what @sasto mentioned, boxers fought each other more frequently in the past. SRR fought LaMotta six times and Fullmer four times.

    However besides that I think boxing kind of hit a peak with skills, technology, and competition around the 90s. Since then it's been a bit of a decline. Obviously technology, nutrition, strength and conditioning are all better, but fighters fight less often against other top opponents and their skillsets look down to me as a whole. The top dogs could compete in any era, but their divisions appear weak. Most guys don't seem to know how to fight on the inside, how to cut off the corner. The guys who fight on the outside a few and far between. We get a lot of dumb power punchers who ended getting blasted by the elite fighters. It's a very general take, but that's how I see it.
     
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  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cry me a river.
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Most who? I'm talking about real boxing personalities and aficionados not BF24 groupies.
     
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  5. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah it's hard to take the polls seriously when so much of the fans scoring is based on popularity.
     
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  6. m.s.

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    It shouldnt have to be debated, they should get it right the first time.
     
  7. m.s.

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    What? A handful of drunk boxers in the audience impressed with the story of the fight?Please.
     
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  8. m.s.

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    Well, Canelo is the most popular, 70,000 you know. So the most popular fighter is losing on the polls when it comes to these fights. That should tell you something. No shame in losing to GGG. As you can see, you can lose to GGG and still go on to greatness.
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The polls that you rely on for your world view is a tiny fraction of 70,000.
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    @m.s. If we walked around that stadium last weekend polling people randomly on who won both Canelo GGG fights the vast majority would say Canelo won both.
     
  11. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol, well on this website more people were rooting for Saunders last Saturday:
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    You know the guy who also got caught with PEDs, offering to pay a homeless woman if she assaulted someone or performed a sex act on him, and making fun of another boxer for losing his daughter. Posters aren't exactly unbiased on this website. :deal:
     
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  12. m.s.

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    Yeah but the ringside media had it massively for GGG in both fights, those that are paid to report the news accurately, and not be drunk on the job.
     
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  13. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They were drunk on GGG Kool-Aid. They all bought into the hype, clearly.
     
  14. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll try and meet you halfway. I was referring to fan polls, not ringside observers. I haven't looked into what media or other boxers have scored the fights. I personally have them 1 and 1, but both fights were close and could have gone either way in my book.

    That said, I would maybe trust the scores of boxers more, but even there a lot of guys have agendas based on jealousy, friendships, and angling to get a fight. With media, most of those guys never stepped into a ring and score based on who their networks want to prop up. A lot of people also score off of style preferences based on pressure or outside fighting. So no, I don't really trust most people's scores.

    I've laced them up and I score based off the 4 criteria round by round. I give clean hard punches the most weight. Both guys were pretty effective the nights they fought so I'm not broken up because both guys have a claim to victory.
     
  15. UFC2020

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    Canelo path to greatness

    Become a cash cow so that others will excuse you for using PEDs and to buy off judges
     
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