Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

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Is Canelo Alvarez deliberately cheating?

  1. Canelos a clean fighter

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  2. Clenelo is juicing

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  3. Who gives a flying ****??

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  1. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I also believe Canelo ate just the kind of beef he wanted to.
     
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  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The biggest (non) shocker is that there's not an impartial nonprofit organization above businesses such as promotions and organizations as they are very clearly into decades of corruption, money laundering and other shenanigans. Tennis has the Association of Tennis Professionals plus ITF both overseeing rules to be followed, and they are enforced.

    In no sport do anti-doping rules say can't take this and this in these countries but you can take this and this in these ones. It's your goddamn responsibility to abide by the clear cut rules, and if ur so dumb, and the ppl. around u r so dumb to get PEDs into your body from whatever source, it's on you, brother. Zero argument. Nada. You got caught you dumb-a// m/therf/cker, suffer the proper consequences. Banishment, fine and doing anti-doping campaign for 2 years.

    Interesting if NSAC will allow Canelo to fight with an independent and valid organization providing two positive samples.
     
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  3. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm not sure why it is difficult for you to comprehend something as basic as simple arithmetic?

    ODLH is on record stating that they had offered GGG 3-4 times more than he has ever made.
    GGGs biggest payday when that offer was made was 2 million.
    2M x 4= 8M
    The offer was made for 155.
    The link below will help you find answers to this and even help you with the math.
    www.google.com

    “I didn’t want to talk about any other offers that we had made to anyone else. 30 days ago I made an offer to GGG and his people. I believe it’s an offer that was two, three, four times what he’s ever made and haven’t heard back. And that’s the bottom line.”
    -Oscar De La Hoya

    "If he wants to fight with me, let him come down to 155 and I'll fight him whatever day he wants."
    -Canelo

    “My weight is not heavy. I’m 164, 165 every day,” said Golovkin to UCN Undisputed.
    “Middleweight is 160. It doesn’t matter. Canelo wants 155; try it. I’m 160. I want unification fight against [Billy Joe] Saunders and hopefully Canelo. I want Canelo because he’s a good champion. He’s a big name for me. Good business, and for everybody for fans. I want big name so everybody understands who I am,” said Golovkin.
    -GGG


    "Why 155? Why not 140? This is not middleweight belt. My focus is on the middleweight division. I need all the belts in the middleweight division.
    -GGG

    Golovkin's trainer Abel Sanchez also recently said they're not interested in fighting Canelo at 155, saying that the deal in place with the WBC is for a 160-pound title fight.

    "If he wants to fight with me, let him come down to 155 and I'll fight him whatever day he wants. At this moment, my body isn't ready for 160 pounds. Maybe 1 or 2 more years I'll be ready for 160, I don't know, but I'd be delighted to fight someone like Gennady. He's a great fighter and I think it would be a great fight. I'd be delighted to get him in a fight."
    -Canelo


    GGG claimed he would fight anyone between 154-168. Considering GGG had not had one good win in his entire resume you would figure that he would try to live up to his hype and prove himself against the best. When the Ward fight was being talked about GGG requested a CW of 164,knowing full well that it would be near impossible for Ward to make that weight healthy. Regardless Ward made it known that he was not fighting under 168, GGGoons called Ward a coward and every other synonym relentlessly.

    When Canelo requested a CW of 155 (never have claiming he would fight anyone between 154-168 like GGG did) The GGGoons once again called Canelo a Coward and every other synonym for essentially doing the same thing Golovkin did. After the Khan fight in the post fight interview Canelo challenged GGG to a Non-title fight at 155.

    Despite GGG not having a good win on his resume he declined to fight Canelo at a CW and declined to fight Ward at the full SMW limit.

    Yet he was requesting a CW with Ward and contradicting his stance by refusing Ward at the full limit.

    That is how I feel GGG scammed his fans. He had two sets of standards depending on who he was fighting. He was fighting a top elite fighter he was not willing to test himself, he was fighting someone significantly smaller or significantly limited he would be willing to move to their division. FFS he was even willing to fight Pacquiao at 154.

    JCCJr is a very limited fighter. I think his fight against Canelo pretty much confirmed that. Its no wonder GGG was willing to fight him at 168, makes you wonder his true motive for asking Ward to come down to 164.

    By the way NJikam, against whom Lemieux won his paper title, was a better and much more accomplished fighter than Liam Smith. His wins over Khurtsidze, Stevens and Bursak are much better wins than any win Smith had at the time, and Khurtsidze himself was a more formidable fighter than Smith himself.[/quote]


    This is where you're infatuation with GGG gets you all ****ed. First of all I said "arguably", and I made a good argument. The consensus was that DL was GGGs best opponent. My argument is simply that you can argue Liam Smith was a better champion.



    You're full of **** buddy. Your posts was debunked with my first rebuttal, and it has been debunked again. You're too emotional to have a proper debate with. You are driven by hate and infatuation. I am driven by facts.
     
  4. theanatolian

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    Just feed lies with more lies, hoping to get away with it. Oscar says two, three, four times. It could be 4 mill, could be 6, could be 8. And even in the very same quote, Canelo says that they made an offer 2 of 3 times of his career high payday, which makes it(apparently your math is terrible so I'm gonna help you out) 4 or 6 million $. There's not a single mention of 155, not a single mention of 8 million. According to the link that you posted, you are lying, dishonest dick rider.

    Those links were from 2015, right before and after Canelo fought Cotto. You claimed Canelo made an offer to fight at 155, after he fought Khan. Which is another made up BS from you. Here is Canelo debunking you and saying that weight was no issue:

    https://www.badlefthook.com/2016/5/...res-no-weight-issue-ill-fight-golovkin-at-160

    So, according to Canelo himself, you are a liar. That's what a bizarre nuthugger you are, you're even willing to contradict with Canelo himself to defend him.


    Yes, GGG's catchweight demand was a shitty move. But no more shitty than Canelo not being ready for 160 and then going on to fight Chavez Jr. at 164. Both **** moves, both deserved criticism for it. Whoever celebrated one and attacked the other(you and some other GG fans and haters) are a bunch of morons.


    So, GGG having two sets of standards depending on who he was fighting was him scamming his fans. But Canelo having two sets of standards depending on who he was fighting was a reason for you to celebrate? Gotcha.




    Indeed. It's no wonder GGG was willing to fight him at 168, It's also no wonder why Canelo did fight him at 164. What's a wonder is, as I stated above, how on earth do goons like you find the nerves to attack one and salute the other.


    By the way NJikam, against whom Lemieux won his paper title, was a better and much more accomplished fighter than Liam Smith. His wins over Khurtsidze, Stevens and Bursak are much better wins than any win Smith had at the time, and Khurtsidze himself was a more formidable fighter than Smith himself.[/quote]


    No, that's where I prove you don't know what you're talking about. You didn't make any arguments, you just clicked to the boxrec and based your argument entirely on it. When in reality, you have never seen a Liam Smith fight in your life other than his one fight. You're just talking out of your ass, you can't name a single Smith opponent without a boxrec search. FYI, Smith's best win was a guy who gave him a boxing lesson for 6 rounds(I know, because I was watching it live when you were busy telling everyone what a great businessman Oscar is) who then went on to get schooled by Willie Monroe.





    The only one who you debunked is yourself buddy. You even lied about the link that you posted in the very same post, you went as far as to lie about Oscar's and Canelo's quotes, to contradict with them just for the sake of defending them. As I said in my first post and proved over and over again, you're literally the last person here to criticise anyone for fanboyism, the only thing you're driven by is the size of Oscar's and Canelo's dicks. You geniunely need to log the **** of and seek some psychological help regarding self awareness.
     
  5. IsaL

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    No, that's where I prove you don't know what you're talking about. You didn't make any arguments, you just clicked to the boxrec and based your argument entirely on it. When in reality, you have never seen a Liam Smith fight in your life other than his one fight. You're just talking out of your ass, you can't name a single Smith opponent without a boxrec search. FYI, Smith's best win was a guy who gave him a boxing lesson for 6 rounds(I know, because I was watching it live when you were busy telling everyone what a great businessman Oscar is) who then went on to get schooled by Willie Monroe.







    The only one who you debunked is yourself buddy. You even lied about the link that you posted in the very same post, you went as far as to lie about Oscar's and Canelo's quotes, to contradict with them just for the sake of defending them. As I said in my first post and proved over and over again, you're literally the last person here to criticise anyone for fanboyism, the only thing you're driven by is the size of Oscar's and Canelo's ****s. You geniunely need to log the **** of and seek some psychological help regarding self awareness.[/QUOTE]


    LOL, I'm done with you. Your posts are ridiculous and honestly embarrassing. I'm probably the bigger fool for entertaining a troll like you.
     
  6. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, please, show us more proof of this "8 million offer at 155", liar.
     
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  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    You need someone to tutor you with basic arithmetic. Don't bother me with that.
     
  8. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Someone just got BUSTED COLD:campeon::stirrpot
     
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  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What a douche bag.
     
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  10. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    If it's true that GGG has been tested 6 times and all clean.....

    How scary is that?

    His power is insane. Better than the juicers.
     
  11. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah isal, educate me on how 2 or 3 times of 2 is equal to 4. Your great brain is a gift to the humanity.
     
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  12. fistsof steel

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    That's some Great Research...well done...
     
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  13. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I see you also have reading comprehension. 4 times more. Or you probably suffer from Selective reading.
     
  14. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is the link you quoted from:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshka...vkin-an-8-figure-offer-to-fight/#7b40ec312b24

    Canelo: "About a month ago, we offered [Golovkin] twice or three times as much to make the fight."

    Oscar: “I know you know what I’m talking about. So, 30 days ago I made an offer to GGG and his people. I believe it’s an offer that was two, three, four times what he’s ever made and haven’t heard back. And that’s the bottom line.”

    Isal the insane nuthugger: "They meant 4 times as much!"

    Sure kid. I'm the one who suffers from selective reading.

    And by the way, Oscar was referring to the 10 mill flat fee offer for the fight to take place in sept. 2017. You only took a small portion of it to support your blatant lie.
     
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  15. Serge

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