Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

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Is Canelo Alvarez deliberately cheating?

  1. Canelos a clean fighter

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  2. Clenelo is juicing

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  3. Who gives a flying ****??

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  1. elbonzoseco

    elbonzoseco Member Full Member

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    Possible, not plausible.
    But yes, we'll have to wait and see. Maybe we'll get another first, he might be the one with the highest concentration of clenbuterol to go completely free. That's quite the accomplishment and very fair to the others, that have been penalized without having Canelos means to avoid this situation.
     
  2. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Tackle what i said?
    Also smoking said before that was some lab golden boy quoted and put in the statement to confused people like you.
    You are going around is circles like an idiot.
    Half life's don't match up, deal with it.
    You have been made a fool of ,dont know what you are talking about and should atop digging the hole deeper
     
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  3. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    This is becoming one of the biggest threads ever it seems, just over a week since it started.

    Of course fans can always spin this to "look how popular Canelo is"
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not ducking or dodging anything, look if you're really being genuine, if it turns out what you're saying is accurate, then OK, I am willing to hear out your point. The problem is it's hard for me to take you seriously with your track record of coming at me and your cringeworthy comments.

    You say I don't know what I'm talking about but yet I managed to catch other posters in lies like the guy yesterday who tried to argue 600-800 picograms is too high for meat contamination. I never claimed to be an expert and I can do without your petty insults. It hurts your own credibility if you need to constantly insult somebody on a message board. It makes you look pompous and arrogant.

    This is why it's hard to take your more substantive points seriously. What I want to do is to wait until later today to hear from the experts. If what you are saying about half-lifes has validity then surely the experts involved will bring it to our attention.

    The problem with what you're saying is that it's contrary to what the VADA lab director claimed in the press release that the values are consistent with meat contamination which was confirmed by the WADA 1,000 picogram limit to what is considered possible meat contamination. That's the data that I have put forth, that's 100% direct verifible not your half life theory. Again, if it turns out what you are saying has validity then I'm willing to take your more seriously, however you can't deny that what you're saying is contrary to what the VADA lab director stated.

    It seems to me that (if it was meat contamination) it all comes down to how soon after he ingested the meat the test was administered.
     
  5. BCS8

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    :crybaby2::crybaby2::crybaby2::crybaby2:

    ...
    ... orrrrr ....

    Maybe there are a lot of people who call it like they see it :deal: MAYBE, given that so many people are of that opinion, MAYBE it's YOU that's wrong? Ya think?
     
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  6. BCS8

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    Just took a look at the Scene. Posters there are trashing Canelo too, en masse.

    OH NOES, all those GGG fans! So many!
     
  7. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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  8. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    If you have ever ran the JUICE you know these things too. He’s a sheep protecting GB
    I like Canelo but he is dirty
     
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  9. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I like Big Red but I’m no fool. He was hitting the gear and not eating tainted meat
     
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  10. BCS8

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    Would explain his miraculously found mobility and stamina. ;)
     
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  11. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Unfortunately iv never ran the juice, just liked chemistry and physics in school
    But he has been quoting pages and pages of stuff he now admits he doesnt understand at all.
    If you don't know what a half life is you should really stay quiet about defending clenelo.
    But im happy he brought up dissipation times or what ever the hell he thinks that is, made me have a look at the half life of clenbuterol and realised clenelos tainted meat yarn is impossible
     
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  12. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  13. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's in VADA's statement they will continue testing because that's what they are contracted to do. It's got nothing to do with proving him innocent. That's not how antidoping works lol.
     
  14. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Next time just post the link as the forum doesn't allow images. That said, that screen grab is worthless as its a statement from Gooldenboy that was edited to create an excuse. The lab director goes on to say that the first test result sample was way too high and needs to be "further investigated."
     
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  15. shadow111

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    I admitted I'm not an expert, doesn't mean I don't understand what your talking about. Of course I know what a half life is conceptually I just don't buy your "becuase of half life's it means Canelo's a cheat" argument. It's hard to take you seriously because even before you "figured out" that half lifes prove that Canelo's a cheat, you already thought Canelo's a cheat, so all you're doing is using whatever it is you find to re-affirm your argument that you've had all along. It's called confirmation bias fealla, you convinced yourself Canelo's a cheat and anything you find you will twist and spit it to confirm your argument that you were right. We seen the same phenomena yesterday with your friend thesmokingm. He got so angry when I proved him wrong with the 1,000 picograms limit he tried to make up all this stuff about what that really meant so he didn't have to admit he was wrong lmao.

    Oddly enough, I felt the same way about thesmokingm (that you do about me bringing up the dissipation) when he tried to argue 600-800 picograms was too much for meat contamination. I was happy he brought that up because it made me have a look at what the limit really was and I found it was 1,000 picograms.
     
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