Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

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Is Canelo Alvarez deliberately cheating?

  1. Canelos a clean fighter

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  2. Clenelo is juicing

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  3. Who gives a flying ****??

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  1. thesmokingm

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    If I could triple like this post I would.
     
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  2. LANCE99

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    Irony from a cheerleader
     
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  3. shadow111

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    I've never used clen personally nor do I know someone personally who's used clen. Is using clen or knowing somebody who uses clean some sort of a requirement to talk about clen?

    I appreciate the info, but then you throw in how you think I'm a fan boy? You don't need to be a PED user to talk about PED use. You know, I haven't been the one accusing Canelo of being a cheat. The burden is on anyone making that claim to prove that. I'm trying to stay as neutral as possible, and not jump to any conclusions like so many on here have accusing Canelo of being a cheat (though I think it's clear that most of that is out of Triple G fandom) and I'm awaiting the news today that we're told will shed some more light on the situation.
     
  4. Stefz

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    I know plenty of people who use PED's, i myself have tried low dosages of clen. I know what effect people have on them and how quickly it dilutes out of your system. I also know a person who "juices" just be the standard trademarks of PED use. Mass/Muscle gain in short periods of time while staying lean.

    Getting Popped for Clen with a high dosage in your system then suddenly dropping rings alarm bells.
     
  5. shadow111

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    We've seen plenty of cheerleading about how Canelo is a cheat. I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt and not jumping to that conclusion. I want to reserve judgement until more comes out about what caused the positive test.
     
  6. thesmokingm

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    He's just going to ignore the facts or points that are inconvenient and act blind to them.
     
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    It didn't drop suddenly. It was over 3 days and appears to be within range of half life calculation. Do you think Canelo's above average metabolism could cause it to leave his system faster than usual? There could be other factors involved that we are not taking into account that could explain the difference between the two tests. But again, I'm willing to hear what you have to say. Again I'm not a PED user and don't have experience with clen, but that doesn't mean I don't understand the basics and am un-qualified to have a dialog with you about it.
     
  8. shadow111

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    Says the person that has been posting falsehoods and continues to ignore WADA's 1,000 picogram limit. And what about the full statement from Eichner. Still waiting for that . . .
     
  9. LANCE99

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    Of course you are. The more people who speak out against canelo, the more you'll up your defense to "Even it out..." If you don't see how silly that is, then by all means, continue.
     
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  10. shadow111

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    Why are you so threatened and angered by my not accusing Canelo of being a PED cheat? It's a free country! This isn't a popularity contest. I don't like seeing people dragged through the mud unless I know it's warranted, sue me!
     
  11. Stefz

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    "above average metabolism" - Clen's main effect.

    Most Drug tests will not be administered while the athlete has just eaten. To get that much "clen" in his system from one meal is ridiculous. I highly doubt Canelo would eat the same red meat meal over and over again with "tainted meat" to get that high of dosage. Unless hes on the come down from coming off a cycle, which explains the high dosage to a dramatic drop.

    Having a "naturally high metabolism" would also mean the Clen that came from "contaminated meat" would be worked off alot quicker due to the vast lower concentration compared to pill form.

    Theres too many signals and pointers to suggest PED use than "contaminated meat". You are putting alot of hypothetical's instead of accepting "cheater".
     
  12. Stefz

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    It in all honesty. What probably happened was, Canelo's team probably upped the dosage of his clen slightly to build up a slightly bit higher muscle mass for the fight, and got popped as they underestimated the "down time" to wash the system. Hence the dramatic High to low detection.
     
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    If he had a naturally high metabolism levels from tests 3 days apart may drop quicker than usual.

    Why should I accept "cheater" before hearing the report from the NSAC? I just want to get all the facts before I make a judgement. What's so wrong with that?
     
  14. thesmokingm

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    I've said this numerous times too. It's an obvious miscalc on their doc's part. No bonus for the strategist this time. But someone keeps ignoring these points lol.
     
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    It means his first test wouldn't come up so high either. I highly doubt he would risk red meat before a test.

    Occum's Razor. You make 101 excuses for how hes not a cheater, when all the evidence points otherwise.

    You should of been on the OJ simpson case, you might of saved him from jail.....
     
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