Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

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Is Canelo Alvarez deliberately cheating?

  1. Canelos a clean fighter

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  2. Clenelo is juicing

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  3. Who gives a flying ****??

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  1. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He didn't say WADA banned anyone brainiac. Great reading comp you have there!
     
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  2. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is what it is, it’s not right though but it’s the crooked business that is boxing.
     
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  3. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I guess we have no choice to use facts and not emotionally charged opinions and speculations.

    Facts:
    Canelo has tested clean for every test save Feb. 17th, and Feb. 20th
    SMRTL director stated findings are consistent with contaminated meat
    Canelo has continued testing clean

    So you can choose to believe Canelo doped up for a couple days, or even a week, and since has stopped and is clean now, or you can give a stand out professional the benefit of the doubt, enjoy boxing, and enjoy the May 5th fight and HOPE the best man that night wins.
     
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  4. speedychris

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    Sure buddy, I didn't mention anything about you, so why the hate dude. By the way, How much is this bridge and will it bridge the gap between you and Canelo's nuts?
     
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  5. Stefz

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    IsaL.... Thats how Clen works. If you dont take it, it goes from your system pretty sharpish. As stated numerous times, its half life is under 48 hours from a low dosage. Welcome to PED's 101.
    The SMRTL director is paid by GBP, thus theres direct incentive to keep Canelo competing (No Overall Regulated Sanctioning Body).
    He will test clean if hes stopped taking clen. He will still reap the rewards of the improved muscle mass-to-body fat ratio. Once again, Welcome to PED's 101.

    So in your opinion, if someone is caught with HGH, then tests clean afterwards, thats fine ? As HGH can be easy to test clean after a cycle.
     
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  6. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow...are you seriously trying to play that angle? That it's possible Canelo ONLY used for a couple of days, or even a week?

    What they found in his system is also consistent with someone who was using the drug., then cycled. off. But no...you're too stupid to even grasp that.

    Did SMARTL do an investigation? They simply answered a question on what it COULD be. That does not indicate that's ALL it could have been.

    You are either disingenuous about all this, or completely and utterly clueless.
     
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  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    This is a forum, I can interject anywhere anytime, kinda like you did.. That's the beauty. Now tell again why you believe that lunatic Smokingm has Shadow cornered?
     
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  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not according to this statement :

    https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/news/2017-04/wada-statement-on-ard-documentary

    Effectively, when the circumstances of a positive case indicate that the athlete has been in one of the identified countries where clenbuterol meat contamination is significant, the anti-doping community views it as unreasonable to put the burden of proof on the athlete, i.e. to prove that the meat, which he or she had consumed, was contaminated

    So no, according to WADA, what you just said there is not accurate. It is up to the NSAC to prove that Canelo's intake of clenbuterol was pharmacological. What you said there was correct that "WADA uses the up to 1000pg regarding meat contamination". That's what thesmokingm has been refusing to admit all this time ! Why is this important? Well because Canelo's 1st sample of 600-800 pg while high is still within that range.

    Then you say they never ever enforce that and many have been banned for less than that? I have spoken directly to this point several times, that it's not the amount of the test result that determines whether an athlete was suspended, but rather the circumstances that caused the athlete to test positive. (whether it was from contaminated meat or whether it was pharmacological)

    So the gist of what you're saying is mostly right (and you said what thesmokingm refuses to admit so good of you on that) however trying to claim that I don't know what cycling is laughable and please familiarize yourself with WADA's statement about where the burden of proof is in clenbuterol cases.
     
  9. mandatory

    mandatory Nuthugger Crusher Full Member

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    Well if it aint the biggest cheerleader! Lol The Canela Defenders! #cheerleaders! Its you and Isal against the world! Youd defend Canelo of hed Kill someone you bi**h stfu already.... :p
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL I can hardly wait for that explanation !
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It means that if you test 600-800 pg of clenbuterol they still consider it in the range for possible food contamination! Not "off the scale", not "too high" for meat contamination like thesmokingm tried to argue yesterday!
     
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  12. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Oh, really? Because the PED's are going to make Alvarez forget that he has roughly 1,000 times the defensive ability of Curtis Stevens? lol The hate for Mexicans on this board is real. Just earlier there was one guy talking about how we need to build a fence to keep 'em all out. Keep on hatin', haters.
     
  13. IsaL

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    Oh, I didn't realize you were an PED expert. Where did you get your credentials from?

    I'm sure SMRTL is paid by VADA not GBP, but I'm not entirely sure. Both VADA and SMRTL have more clients than just Canelo. SMRTL is a WADA accredited testing agency that is contracted by VADA. Do you really believe SMRTL, VADA, and WADA would jeopardize their reputation for one fighter? If so, I have another bridge to sell you.

    Do you understand how VADA works? Do they give notice of test dates, if they do how much notice do they give, and if they give notice wouldn't that be counter productive? Me thinks you don't know WTF you're talking about.
     
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  14. mandatory

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    I really cant understand why the mods wont ban bic***s like shadow woman and Isala for defending a fighter who tested positive... its not about who it is ita about someone testing positive period.. And they try to make it seem like its alright... Gaawwwd..
     
  15. str1

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    CLENelo has roid rage! Fact!
     
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