Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

Morales was allowed to fight because his B sample had not come back as positive yet and the fight was in Brooklyn. Vargas fight took place in California total different commision with it's own rules , Nery fight was in Japan and again the fight took place before the B sample confirmed positive..... now Canelo has refused to have his B sample tested as he admits to Clen being in his system...... can you find an example in Nevada of a positive test where the fight has happened since 2016 when NSAC changed their rules?

 

Stop twisting facts douchebag. The doper always has to prove contaminated meat, otherwise whats the ****ing point? The only time they eased the requirement for the burden of proof is in a pandemic situation as in the Bejing Olympics or other Olympic situations AFTER THE FACT, as in years later. And in that instance, it's unreasonable to expect the sole athlete to track down the source years later. And in this case they are talking about sample cases numbering in the thousands, not one guy in an isolated case all by himself in the present tense. smh

****ing douchebag keeps twisting facts to apply to Clenelo.

Can't get anymore guilty than that. No need to test the B sample because he already knows its going to come back positive rofl.

 

The Vargas situation was before the revision in regulations by the NSAC, therefor the precedent set by the Vargas situation is irrelevant. For a precedent to be used in this situation, it must be after September 9, 2016.

 

The OP has a point, though I'm not convinced that it was Golovkin's comments that caused the hearing to be scheduled. Bob Bennett indicated that the hearing is standard for such a situation. To their credit, Golovkin or Sanchez has never stated that they want the fight to be cancelled and frankly most of their comments on the subject appear to be getting blown out of proportion. They've never flat out accused Canelo of cheating or anything. And Sanchez in one interview indicated that the result may very well have been from meat contamination. That said, there's no question that Golovkin and his team are playing politics with this situation.

 

They have to play politics, they are in a dominant position. They can increase their popularity and their brand.

 

I still want Golovkin to punch el ginger bread man in the face. Fight will go on!

 

Very relevant points. Different commissions (and different timeframes / details) in all of those cases, so there's more of an unknown here for sure as far as how the NSAC will rule.

As far as Canelo's "refusing" to have his B sample tested, are you just saying that or do you actually know that for sure? Provide your source if you are making that claim.

But you're right though, we don't know how the NSAC will handle this. The irony of all this is that many Golovkn fans wanted the fight to be in NY becuase they thought the NSAC was so corrupt, but yet the NSAC may end up treating this matter more seriously than other commissions like the NYSAC or CSAC. (and like you said it's without precedent in Nevada) Though it's hard to imagine that the NSAC is not aware of WADA's recent statement on clenbuterol and how these matters are being handled. Still, to your point, there's definitely a big unknown as to how Bob Bennett and the NSAC will proceed here since not only haven't they handled a case like this recently but also this event is much bigger obviously than the past cases referenced. Still I think many fans on here are taking it too far to the other extreme. It's not as if the NSAC's rules prohibit clearing a fighter based on meat contamination / mitigating circumstances. But it would be ignorant to believe that the NSAC would ignore past cases in other states involving clenbuterol or WADA's own policy on clenbuterol which the NSAC very clearly state that their rules are adopted by many WADA guidelines and publications.

 

So Canelo should be free to inject roids into his arms without anyone saying anything about it?

 

That's true, but even the latest revision leaves the commission with discretion to rule appropriately with regard to mitigating circumstances. You were making it seem like they don't have that discretion.

 

Dan Rafael's article regarding the Nery situation indicated that he did not have to prove to the WBC that it was from contaminated meat. That the WBC just simply believed him.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...inding-was-possibly-result-food-contamination

Bantamweight world titleholder Luis Nery won't be stripped of his belt for a failed drug test because the WBC said it believes that the positive finding was the result of food contamination.

After investigating the matter, the WBC issued its ruling on Monday in which it said that it "cannot make a determination with sufficient certainty as to whether Mr. Nery's adverse finding was the result of intentional ingestion of a banned substance to improve performance. All information and facts lead to conclude that the adverse finding was due to consumption of contaminated food products."

Also of note,

The WBC said that Nery, who did not request that his "B" sample be tested, gave the organization a sworn statement in which he said he "ingested substantial amounts of beef and beef consommé daily as part of his dietary/training regime in Mexico during several weeks preceding the adverse finding. ... Mr. Nery and his camp have emphatically denied taking any performance enhancing drugs or any banned substance."

So Nery didn't have to provide proof and didn't request that his B sample was tested, and he was cleared.

(Zilpaterol, similar to the banned substance clenbuterol, has contaminated beef in Mexico and has been an issue for athletes there in terms of drug testing.)

That's pretty clear. According to Dan Rafael, Nery did not need to provide proof of meat contamination or provide a B sample to be cleared.

 

That's the WBC not the NSAC. The WBC have already accepted Canelo's explanation too.

Also zilpaterol is not the same as clenbuterol, it increases weight while clenbuterol burns fat.

 

I was responding to a comment that said "The doper always has to prove contaminated meat". I responded by pointing out that according to Dan Rafael, Nery didn't have to.

 

As far as Vargas and Morales, what information do we have showing that they proved that they ingested contaminated meat?

 

Well people stop saying temporary suspension. All suspension , by definition , is temporary. This is like saying wet water .

 

Water isn't wet though