Canelo popped for Clenbuterol

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Is Canelo Alvarez deliberately cheating?

  1. Canelos a clean fighter

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  2. Clenelo is juicing

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  3. Who gives a flying ****??

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Shadow11 is very articulate, very respectful and does his research very well.

    If you blocked him its probably because he has made you question your opinions because as I mentioned he is a good respectful poster unlike most of the GGGoons around here that you associate yourself with.
     
  2. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's like that saying, any publicity is good publicity, even when you're getting pissed on. And he's like yea bros, bring it on...
     
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  3. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    No he isn't those things, you're only saying that because is he just another Canelo apologist.

    It takes him 7000 words to get a single point across, that's not articlute, that is verbal diarrhoea.

    My block list consists of Blizzy, MVC and Shadow, I'm not exactly block happy, only 3 posters blocked is all this time.. I only block people who are truly beyond any help.
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Too bad you can't block yourself then.
     
  5. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeeeaahhh, good one.

    Anyway I'm off now, have a great weekend, don't spend it on here defending Canelo.

    Go out, enjoy yourself and stay safe.
     
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  6. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    Also, it's very hard to believe that an athlete on Canelo's level would allow himself to eat food which his team doesn't have any information on. Klitschko had his own chefs and whole team of experts, and I guess that all the other high profile boxers do something similar. You basically have a list of forbidden substances and you are responsible what you bring into your body. It is expected from high profile athletes to eat the best possible food, not some low level contaminated meat that is apparently diagnosed in 20% of tested Mexican cattle. It doesn't seem very likely that an athlete like Canelo would be that careless.
     
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  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His team employs two former career butchers and one just happens to be his trainer so you'd think they knew wtf is going. It makes his tainted meat excuse sound like complete horse manure. It's like Jordan saying he can't find a shoe that fits him... what?
     
  8. Farmboxer

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    Wonder how long El Pollo has gotten away with roids and illegal handwraps? Tony Weeks and the boxing commission will also claim it's legal for El Pollo to land low blows to the testicles, they are legal for SOB Ward, who was also the house fighter.............
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  9. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    I noticed that too, you make 2-3 bullet point comments to shadow he has to reply with about 2000 words where he doesn't even touch on most of the things you say.
    Its like someone filibustering in the american senate. He cant argue at all because he doesnt have a leg to stand on
     
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  10. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    El Pollo is rich, he can afford organic beef, only the poor can't afford it. Robert Garcia said that El Pollo is lying...................VADA cleared Povetkin, yet WBC still refused to allow Povetkin the right to fight Wilder, he would have knocked Wilder out, Haymon gets what he wants. Oscar will get what he wants, including corrupt judges, referee, boxing commission, roids, etc. and hand wraps stacked with a brick inside it!
     
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  11. theanatolian

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    Talk about contradicting oneself. First, you've been telling everyone Canelo made GGG an 8 millon $ offer for a fight at 155 right after he vacated the title. That's a complete lie, there's not an ounce of truth to this. A clear suggestion what a bizarre not hugger you are, pulling things out of your ass to defend your hero. Here you go:

    Yeah, Canelo did say something like the fight had to happen at 155, but there was no substance to it. They never made an offer for a fight at 155, they made it clear that fight wasn't going to happen after he beat Cotto. And after Canelo beat Khan, there was a direct quote from Canelo saying that weight wasn't the issue when they delayed the fight. Yet you claimed that they made an offer for a fight at 155, after he vacated the title, contradicting with Canelo himself to defend him. Here's another proof of you being a mentally ill nuthugger:

    You did indeed attacked him for his selective cathcweights. You told everyone he was scamming his fans with it, you claimed, he should've been ready to fight Ward at 168 if he was ready to do so with Froch and Chavez. And than you told everyone that Canelo wasn't read for 160, told everyone that he was a natural 154 pounder, and when he jumped 10 lbs to fight Chavez, you were the very first to celebrate it. The hypocricy does indeed lie with you.

    And now JCC jr. is limited, yet you were telling everyone he was a world level fighter when he signed to fight Canelo.


    Oh, look at this bizarre hypocrite, contradicting with himself again. You spent years telling everyone that resume is the most important thing in boxing, why don't you give one name from Smith's resume that is a better win than Lemieux' win over N'dam, or Macklin's win over Sturm, or Geale's over Sylvester or Mundine? Now we're supposed to be impressed with the "0"s on the record and # of title defences? So going by that logic we can say that GGG was more accomplished than Canelo, just because he was undefeated and had more title defences? Besides all that, you had never even heard about Smith you loser.

    By the way NJikam, against whom Lemieux won his paper title, was a better and much more accomplished fighter than Liam Smith. His wins over Khurtsidze, Stevens and Bursak are much better wins than any win Smith had at the time, and Khurtsidze himself was a more formidable fighter than Smith himself.

    I only returned you the personal attacks you directed at me, you loser. But just for the fun of it, here is another blatant lie from you in the Canelo/Chavez thread:

     
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  12. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The hair sample seems a good idea actually
     
  13. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    116 votes to 7 saying Canelo is a drugs cheat. LOL. GBP can deny it, the authorities can sweep it under the carpet but you cant pull the wool over our eyes. Ofcourse he is a cheat, a cheat with the full backing to cheat from his promoters.
     
  14. Shrewd_dude

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    Contador wasn’t cleared. The guy was stripped of his 2010 Tour de France win.
     
  15. shadow111

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    The Spanish Cycling Federation (RFEC) cleared Contador in mid-February 2011 allowing him to return to racing.

    http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/contador-now-cleared-of-clenbuterol-charges-54185

    However the Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) and World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) then took the case to CAS in an attempt to get a suspension for Contador. A year later he was suspended and given the 2 year ban.

    http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/contador-banned-for-two-years-after-clenbuterol-positive-45544

    When they issued the 2 year ban in Feb 2012, they included all the time back-dated while the matter was being investigated, much of that time he was apparently still competing, so given the back-dating of the suspension, for context, it appears that he was only actually suspended for 6 months. (Feb 2012 - Aug 2012)

    More importantly, the article states that the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) concluded that Contador’s positive for clenbuterol was more "likely to have been caused by the ingestion of contaminated food supplement than by a blood transfusion or the ingestion of contaminated meat" and that there was no evidence that Contador "acted with no fault or negligence".

    It says later on in the article that Condador "claimed that the banned substance was ingested via a tainted steak brought to France from Spain by a friend", which sounds like a terrible "my dog ate my homework" excuse.

    So they had many reasons to suspect that Contador did not ingest contaminated meat. Not only from the levels he tested for and where he was at the time (not in a country known to have contaminated meat), but also due to his far fetched story of a friend bringing him a tainted steak from Spain to France, which was where he was when he tested positive. That story of having a friend bring him a tainted steak from Spain to France just sounds fishy and likely is why they decided to suspend him.

    Canelo on the other hand lives in Mexico where contaminated meat is known to be a problem, so there are big differences between Contador and Canelo as far as how believable it would be for each of them to ingest contaminated meat. With Contador, he tested postive during a major competition, not just in training months before an event like with Canelo.

    At the bottom of this article it shows a full two-year timeline of what happened to Contador between 2010 and 2012 :

    http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/contadors-clenbuterol-case-in-brief-47454
     
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