Canelo Possible Opponent's if no GGG

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    GGG needs Canelo, Sanchez said himself that GGG will never unify becuase Saunders won't fight him because he's asking for too much $$. But Saunders would gladly fight Canelo because he knows he'll make way more $$ vs Canelo than he would vs Golovkin. And as a bonus BJS would be fighting the Lineal Champ with a chance to be the Man at MW.
     
  2. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ...canelo won't fight BJS...unless he was hobbled..
     
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  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "handpicked GBP judges" ? is this just a theory you have or do you have any evidence or reasons to back this up? The judges are handpicked by the NSAC, the judges from the first fight are pretty standard Las Vegas big fight judges who have judged fights from promotions not involving GBP, so please explain what causes you to insist that GBP is allowed to hand pick judges. That sounds like conspiracy stuff.
     
  4. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What you have to realise is that with Shadow ,Isal etc facts don't win arguments. They are unwilling or unable to accept some basic aspect of reality, faced with threatening information about "Their GUY"they stick their heads in the proverbial sand. Rational intelligence won't work either, we've all tried, I suspect much to their twisted Glee.
    We need to figure out what are the emotional blocks inhibiting these characters ( if indeed they are actually separate at all) from seeing reality clearly. He /they seem to be on a quest for "We-spec" but they get more ridiculed as each day goes by thus enforcing even more idiotic statements. Or ...Is it worth the effort?
    Well they do bring a degree of amusement but I was always taught never mock the afflicted ...?
     
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  5. split_decision

    split_decision Electronic information tampers with your soul Full Member

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    Oscar is looking rough, his lifestyle must be catching up with him
     
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  6. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just watch him freeze up a bit and search for names to drop after he say’s “if that fight doesnt happen”.

    Clearly he hasnt thought about any other options apart from Golovkin and Spike so thats just a shameless lie right there.
     
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  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "Facts" like GBP handpicks judges? "Facts" that you can't in any way prove and are nothing more than unproven paranoid conspiracy theories?

    OK Cool "Facts" bro . . .
     
  8. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you saying that Canelo’s 114/114 cards against Golovkin and Mayweather were not paid for by Oscar “where are all my spoons?” De la Hoya?
    I’m not even talking about the ridiculous Byrd card or those against Lara and Trout.
    Simple yes or no question.
     
  9. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he didn't open up enough because he was afraid of a counter. I understand it, but that is what happens if he is afraid of being hit. If two guys go at it the fight will not last long... It just matters who opens up in a big fight. It is rare to have a Hagler/Hearns kind of fight with top fighters because most guys don't want a loss. If GGG opens up in the rematch, you can beat Canelo will counter him more also. It is a risk which is why neither guy earned the win last time.
     
  10. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with you up to the last sentence. Golovkin did win. From his and 80% of the boxing community’s perspectives he didn’t have to do anything differently, he did enough.
     
  11. shadow111

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    lol this sounds like a trick question. There's nothing simple about concluding that the judges cards were "paid for" by ODLH. Doing so would require you to believe in some kind of a massive conspiracy.
     
  12. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s not a trick question.
    Is that a no?
     
  13. shadow111

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    Can you explain to me what you mean by "paid for". Like what do you believe happened? In your mind, was Bob Bennett involved in the "paying off judges" by DLH scheme? Did BB OK all this or was this done by DLH behind Bob's back? You're alleging DLH paid off Trella? (what about Byrd)? We need specifics as to how you think this occurred and who was involved? Also, how much $$ are we talking here?
     
  14. Dirsspaardis

    Dirsspaardis Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You’re unable to answer with a simple yes or no are you lol.

    If everyone knew the specifics those people would be in jail right now.

    That said, I think it is reasonable to assume that it’s more than just a coincidence that all those dodgy score cards involve a cartain fighter.
     
  15. shadow111

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    I mean, look at what you're alleging. And despite your denial I do think it's a trick question. Because if I say "no there was no payoff" then I'm some DLH / Canelo fanboy right or naive like I don't consider corruption a possibility. On the other hand, how can I say "Yes I think DLH paid off the judges"? I mean I have nothing to go on to "believe" that. I'm a man of science bro. I'm not the kind of guy that just goes off the deep end into conspiracies and stuff.

    Since you're the one who believes so confidently that DLH engaged in some kind of a pay off scheme, then the burden is on you to prove that or at least explain how you think it happened. I mean, I get that you disagree with those cards, you think Golovkin won. I get that. But that doesn't prove that DLH paid off the judges. I mean that accusation just seems so "out there" like DLH has that much power that he could pull off something like that and get away with it.

    I mean this is a guy that for Mayweather Canelo he ended up in rehab probably due to trying to co-promote that event with TMT and Mayweather on Showtime and the toll that took on him. DLH was apparently in rehab during Canelo Mayweather fight week so you're asking me to believe somebody that couldn't cope with that event somehow paid off CJ Ross prior to going into rehab? I mean surely you think that he paid off CJ Ross to score it a draw, which given what happened to her after the fight, seems to at least be somewhat more plasible than DLH paying of Trella for the Golovkin fight which seems far less likely.

    But again I have no reason to believe that DLH would risk his reputation by trying to pay off judges. I mean what would be in it for the judges to accept that kind of $$? I mean what happened to CJ Ross is pretty ridiculous on a number of levels, so it's certainly worth hearing you out about what you think happened to her. But to just believe that DLH has some kind of a scheme to pay off judges, I don't see how you can seriously believe that like that actually happened. And if something like that did happen, surely you can appreciate how hard that would be for anyone to believe without any kind of proof or evidence that it happened.