Canelo seems to have changed since fight with Bivol.

It's not semantics. Cherrypick has a clear negative connotation, worse than hand picked. It's a fight designed to make you look good because you are either grabbing a belt from a mediocre champion, or beating a name who is on the slide cause it will look good on your record, or both. Thinking that taking on an undefeated, prime, talented LHW champion who you really hold no stylistic advantages over qualifies as a cherrypick is pure idiocy.

John Ruiz is a cherry pick for RJJ, Kovalev was a cherry pick for Canelo. But even those still had some risk involved.

I wish the can crusher Golovkin had picked some cherries at higher weights the level of Bivol but he didn't dare. I guess sitting in a dead division makes you look better than fighting dangerous "cherries" in the eyes of fools.

 

Are you now suggesting that Canelo was going to bypass TWO undefeated LHW champs and go straight for cruiser? And you think this is argument in his favor? LOL

No. Bivol was selected as a stepping stone to Makabu at cruiser. End of.

...Maybe step away and get some fresh air or somethin'?

 

Awww... you take offense to the terminology. I am sorry for offending you.

Now can you please stop obfuscating the point and ignoring the fact that Bivol was hand picked as a stepping stone to cruiser?

Thanks.

 

You didn't offend me. You are just obviously hilariously biased and I'm calling you out on it. You wouldn't use that term for a fighter you fanboyed. Simple.

 

It is very simple, yet you refuse to address the point. Your emotions are only complicating the matter.

 

Your point is that Bivol, a much better fighter than Makabu, was a stepping stone. That's so stupid it's not even worth debating.

 

You are literally the one talking about links and yet apparently you cant use Google?

https://www.*******.com/canelo-alva...-challenge-makabu-cruiserweight-title--162062

"Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez isn’t even close to done in his pursuit of making history.

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, according to trainer/manager Eddy Reynoso. Guadalajara’s Alvarez was approved by the WBC to next challenge its current champion, Ilunga ‘Junior’ Makabu, following a formal request made by Reynoso during the mandatory challenger portion of the WBC annual convention Tuesday evening in Mexico City.

“We just approved the challenge between Canelo Alvarez and Junior Makabu in cruiserweight,” Mauricio Sulaiman, president of the WBC announced Tuesday.

The move came during discussion of what lies ahead for Alvarez (57-1-2, 39KOs) should he choose to remain at super middleweight, where he has unified all four major titles.

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As is the case with any unified or undisputed champion, the presence of mandatory title defenses becomes a point of conversation"

Try and be an adult and own when youre wrong. Happens to all of us.

 

Good. Stop crying about it and have a nice day.

To anyone not being a crybaby, Canelo had already revealed his plan to become a five weight champ and had already publicly selected his opponent at cruiser.

He wasn't going go from 168 to cruiser, and so selected Bivol as a pit stop when Beterbiev was clearly the real champ.

 

A cherry pick means picking the softest option on the table. That is all. It does not not mean the fighter is garbage. Out of all the options Bivol was the softest target. A guy who looked average in his last 2 fights, not a puncher.

You need to use some logic. Your argument is Canelo chose a fight with no demand, no big ppv, no fan base, over much more popular and easier fights, because he thought Bivol was the toughest fight? That makes no sense and Canelo has never moved like that before.

 

Softer puncher, but arguably more difficult stylistically for Canelo to beat. Canelo's chin would be tested against Beterbiev but he could theoretically have an easier time winning more more rounds against Beterbiev than Bivol, who has a very high work rate, a tight guard and good blocking. Beterbiev has good fundamentals as well but if we're rating who is the better overall boxer, I think most would agree it would be Bivol. Beterbiev has a better chance of hurting Canelo, but if Canelo's chin holds up, which it should, he should have a better chance of winning a decision against Artur if it goes the distance. So softer in terms of punching power yes, but not softer in terms of the easier opponent. Many consider Bivol the best LHW in the world due to his skills, not his power.

 

Because that doesn’t explain again how any of that made Canelo the favorite. Never mind what Canelo thought. Bivols performances have been consistently more dominant (hardly ever losing rounds) than Canelo’s.

Bivol was a younger, fresher, closer to his prime 175 fighter than Kovalev…probably the better boxer too. So Canelo getting outboxed was an easy prediction, the only question was how many close rounds was needed for a corrupt decision.

the idea that Canelo could ever walk down Bivol seemed ludicrous when he easily handled bigger fighters. How Vegas and boxing people felt he was legit favorite is beyond me

 

How many rounds has he even lost in his fights? Bivol consistently puts dominant performances against any fighter for years

 

I just don’t get how Vegas and other boxing fans went along with it. Regardless of what Canelo’s team thought, how did people who bet on boxing honestly have Bivol an underdog? Unless of course they take the robbery of bro account.

Pure boxing wise, Bivol was better than Kovalev in almost all ways. And he had never been close to losing a fight, let alone KO’d.

 

You can't be a dominant champ if you haven't even fought the number 1 in your division.

 

According to a lot of the fans, if *insert name here* fights someone they don't think he should fight, its a cherry pick.