Canelo states 'Neither Sugar Ray Robinson nor Carlos Monzón would have beaten me.

Absolutely.

 

It's not your fault. Canelo's fans will have you believing that DB is being a bully and picking on the poor little 5'7" ginger.

 

Canelo easily. Too modern, too advanced. Those guys didn't even have Internet. Outdated technique, supplements, and diet, etc.

 

He dealt with plenty of movers throughout his career. Trout, Lara, Jacobs, Saunders, Plant. Mayweather and Bivol gave him trouble, but if we're honest, Lara, for example, was more of a mover than Mayweather or Bivol was when they fought Canelo. Lara was in constant motion pretty much the entire match, whereas Mayweather fought him toe to toe in the pocket for most of the match, and Bivol wasn't in constant motion like Lara was. Bivol at times had to cover-up on the ropes. Of course Lara was close as well but Maywather and Bivol beat Canelo not by moving, but by speed, work rate, good blocking, good stamina, elusiveness, etc.

 

The technique aspect of the debate with Monzon is why I think it's a 50/50 fight. The great fighters from today are technically better fighters, I agree but I wouldn't pick him to beat Robinson.

 

He must mean being 168 then, Canelo did nothing to prove he could beat the greatest middleweight of all-time, Robi`s resume at 160 pees all over Canelo`s resume at that weight and Robi`s best weight wa at 147 anyway.

 

Picking SRR to beat Canelo isn't really a knock on Canelo. SRR is arguably the greatest fighter, or one of the greatest of all-time.

 

Can`t use Canelo at 168 for this thread as neither Robi nor Monzon competed at that weight, Robi did lose at 175 though but that was not his natural weight.

 

Threw more jabs than Canelo does though and fought at a high pace, Canelo has stamina problems.

 

Just to show how humble Canelo is, he's stated repeatedly that he doesn't consider himself the greatest mexican of all-time, he says that would be Chavez. But when he's asked if anyone could beat him, currently or in the past, what do you expect him to say? He believes that he's unbeatable in his current form, without injuries, with all the experience he has. If he starts doubting himself and his ability to beat anyone, that could affect his psyche or his work ethic. He has every reason to be confident in his abilities, that's what's gotten him this far, and while many posters on here doubt him and see him as on the decline, that remains to be seen. I mean, he's a different fighter than when he first fought GGG at Middleweight in 2017. That version of Canelo had speed, fast feet (comparatively to now) and a certain skillset that he really doesn't utilize anymore. But this version of Canelo, while maybe he doesn't have the speed he once had, I think it's safe to say that he's more heavy handed than ever. So as a puncher I think he remains very dangerous to anyone at SMW. And I wouldn't underestimate what this man is still capable of.

 

I'd say he loses 9-3 to Robinson, and 8-4 or maybe 7-5 to Monzon. I don't think he beats them, but this is how he's supposed to think as an elite P4P fighter

 

For some reason your post reminded me of what Joe Louis said to Ali when they were being interviewed together. Ali was doing his typical sh:t talking when Louis said, “You ever heard of my ‘Bum of the Month Tour?’
Ali, “Yeah”
Louis, “You would’ve been on it”

 

Bro lol,

Canelo isn't trying to have a debate with anyone about that.. he just made a point that he feel unbeatable at the present moment.

The interviewer asks Canelo "Any MW or SMW in history that could have beat you?

Canelo responds, "I don't know. My mentality is not about if I would have not won or no, I can't. None!"

Interviewer, "SRR, can you accept that he could have beat you? "NO" LaMotta? "No", Monson? "NO".

What I understand is that he is more prepared today than ever. When you consider that leading up to those questions he was talking about how he's keeping his body young like it was in his 20s but is a lot smarter in the ring than when he was in his 20s.

 

Canelo doesn't have stamina issues anymore. He cleared that up prepping for Charlo fight as well as not fighting as frequently anymore.