Canelo still doesn't want the fight at middleweight, but at 155.

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Please no LOL. Catchweights are bad enough, rehydration limits will only make it worse. Neither are needed. The rules are simple, you either make the weight limit are you don’t. Catchweights and rehydration limit both are bad for boxing.
     
  2. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. Fighters would have to fight closer to their optimum weights then since they wouldn't have a day to rehydrate and eliminate all this stuff that is going on now.
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What’s wrong with regular weigh-ins? I like Friday weigh-ins and it’s much easier for the fighters. Imagine having to make weight just hours before the fight. That would add a lot of additional stress and uncertainty on the day of the fight.
     
  4. Pimp C

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    I couldn't agree more but that will never happen because fighters now have gotten used to all of this weight draining that they do now to pick on naturally smaller men.
     
  5. shadow111

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    WHAT? You’re talking about a rehydration limit? What is so hard to understand about how weigh-ins work? You make weight at the weigh-in or you don’t. Rehydration limits are ridiculous. You’re basically saying a fighter could make weight, but then rehydrate to high and not be able to win a title? That’s worse than catchweights, imagine a guy making weight successfully only to be denied a title by a rehydration the day of the fight!
     
  6. Pimp C

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    Much better than packing on 20 pounds and a guy fighting in a weight class he really has no business fighting at. I actually like the IBF model.
     
  7. shadow111

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    If you’re referring to Canelo, he has every bit of business fighting in a weight class if he is able to make the weight limit of that weight division. This isn’t hard to understand, If Canelo is too big or too strong for your favorite fighter, then fight someone else. Don’t make a mockery of the sport with catchweights and rehydration limits to give your fighter a btter chance to beat Canelo. Going such a route is an act of desperation and being scared of a fighter.
     
  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    But, but, but...

    All the angry Tweetings on Twitter!

    :smoke
     
  9. alspacka

    alspacka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    10lb limit will be 170 regardless, correct? Not whatever cw+10?
     
  10. shadow111

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    Yeah, and it's one of the many reasons why the IBF isn’t taken as seriously as other organizations. If it was such a great idea, other boxing organizations would have followed suit and they haven’t. The IBF is the same organization that stripped Tyson Fury mere days after winning its HW title to much outrage.

    IBF is an outlier with that rule, and Canelo doesn’t need that belt to be the man at MW. The belt Canelo holds is more valuable than any of the trinket belts that GGG holds. If I were Canelo, let GGG hold onto his little rehydration IBF belt lol, that way GGG still can have a consolation prize when Canelo whoop that ass!
     
  11. Rumsfeld

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    And they have a history of doing this sort of thing. The Michalczewski situation jumps to mind.
     
  12. boxing4ever

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    Golovkin will fold. Canelo holds the cards and brings the money to the table.
     
  13. Rumsfeld

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  14. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    It's a boxer's job to fight, promoter's job to sell whichever fight his/her fighter is assigned to, and the governing body's job to rank, match, and sanction accordingly.

    IMO, boxers and promoters shouldn't have any say in who fights who. The sanctioning body needs to do their job.
     
  15. shadow111

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    Something doesn’t add up here : If Canelo always ducks out of fight day unofficial weigh ins, then how do you know how much he rehydrates to??

    For what it’s worth, with the 170-lb IBF MW rehydration limit, it’s not out of the realm of possibility for Canelo make that limit. If he generally rehydrates between 15-20 lbs from 154, then he should be able to adjust his diet for 160 and be able to gain a few more lbs prior to the weigh-in so he won’t have to rehydrate as much after.

    Lets remember it took a lot of extra effort for Canelo to make 154 (and a real stress to make 152) so he probably needed to rehydrate more than usual. If he were able to make 160, then he probably wouldn’t be as dehydrated as he was making 154 and wouldn’t need to rehydrate as much.