***Canelo vs Artur Beterbiev or Dmitry Bivol in 2022!!!***

I think Canelo can out gun Bivol and stop him. I think i'll put a bet on Canelo by KO if or when that fight ever comes to fruition.

Bivol is a good technical boxer but has weaknesses and i don't think he's as physically strong as Canelo to engage him often on the inside and to the body.


Beterbiev will be a much tougher fight where i wouldn't be overly confident Canelo wins. Beterbiev relies much more on his physical strength than Bivol does to win fights.

Canelo can win if he positions himself properly in the ring and makes Beterbiev miss. I think the fight could be controversial.

 

puts a scary beating on beterbiev. bivol might give him trouble, wont beat him, but it will be an ugly fight.
oh, and the canelo fight was offered to beterbiev before shopping it to kovalev. they said they had other plans. kovalev took it. i think its high time you all start to factor that in to all these crazy narratives some of you got running in your heads.

 

So Canelo should never fight Beterbiev?

 

Both Beterbiev and Bivol looked like **** in their last outings....so it makes sense Canelo would feel more at ease fighting either one.

Beterbiev doesn't have a great defence and Canelo can definitely exploit it, but still Artur is a power house and should be able to use his offence as defence

Bivol can definitely outbox Canelo, maybe even stop him...though he needs a room to move and they gonna make it an 10ft ring so he can't.

Either way, both are great fights and hopefully will be on DAZN

 

Canelo is a sharp puncher and his new found style depends on going forwards and countering.

When was the last time Beterbiev backed up? Never. He is always going forward. 190cm Gvozdyk couldn't back him up, hurt him, budge or deter him. How is 170cm Canelo going to do the same when he does not have the same firepower and a much lower output?

Canelo is not a good backfoot fighter either, and his power diminishes significantly in doing so.

He has more chance against Bivol.

Beterbiev stops him with an uppercut, lefthook or a sustained beating.

 

If canelo does, then the problem is that he did.

If canelo does not, then the problem is that he didnt.

Haters hate, that's what they do.

Now, on topic. I will totally love any of those fights. I'm glad he's daring to be great, and I wouldnt miss any of those fights for anything.

 

I dont agree. The second left hook in the liver you will see beterbiev thinking twice that uppercut, lefthook or sustained beating. You can ask ggg if you dont believe me, he's still thinking about if he should throw it and risk a counter or not.

Not so easy.

And btw, you make it look like going full forward vs a natural talent counterpuncher is a good idea. Nothing further from this.

 

These are excellent fights. There's no way around it. While Beterbiev's best days may be behind him, there's plenty of people backtracking and now saying Canelo won't be destroyed or that Beterbiev is too old. Stop, he's a ****ing beast and if he's wasted his career by doing **** all, it's his fault, not Canelo's.

Stylistically, Canelo is awful for both. A counter-puncher like Canelo who's so authoritative in his ring generalship that he makes all of these massive punchers fight like pussies, has a granite jaw and is much younger? It's like he's been made in a lab (poor choice of words ) to beat Beterbiev. And since he's moved up, his feet seen much quicker and his stamina much better. He seems much more comfortable without having to drain himself (irony which isn't lost on me), and if his last few fights are something to go by, then he's got a good style for beating pure out-boxers, as well. The pressure he's bringing at the minute is steady and patient, but it's getting the job done.

Beterbiev and Bivol could well win too, just by doing what they always do. Beterbiev could just crush Canelo, and Bivol could just be awful for him. They're great fights, and I hope we're getting them.

 

I could see Canelo becoming undisputed at both 168 and 175.

 

Beterbiev now is old. Let's be real and Canelo and also Kovalev not likely might had beated up not enough old Gvozdyk or Beterbiev.
Surname and brand is thing worshiped by fans like you. Nothing more.

Will see. Beterbiev is old.
Granite chin was not a thing what might help vs 28-35 y.o versions of Beterbiev or Gvozdyk. vs Bivol granite chin might help better.

Gvozdyk actually most likely had won vs Beterbiev on cards if he could handle Beterbiev punches to body.
Exactly body blows were thing that had changed course of fight vs Gvozdyk.

While Beterbiev might look like crude and does carry one punch KO power + is predictable, his style was more close to Subriel Matias not some lad who is looking to land 1 single KO/KD punch.
Gradual damage, he might hit body, liver, ribs, biceps, guard, shoulders etc to wear lad out and then throw his punches to head with more openings.

We only might guess why Gvozdyk had retired: one version might be that Beterbiev had damaged him more seriously than we do know.
another, too valid version is this: he had fought for 6 and even 7 digits purses and had savings. If someone now is beltless and with little doubts most likely should start with 5 digits purses to regain status, cover loss etc? Maybe he had accumulated enough money to use this in business etc? This too is realistic reason to retire.

 

I think eddie see Buatsi for 175 lbs division.
They are talking that Buatsi vs Bolotniks winner might most likely get fight vs Bivol. I suspect that if Buatsi will not win this one, they might attempt to gave to winner ( if this will be Bolotniks ) to fight vs Beterbiev.

 

As conflicted as I am about saying this but I’m actually starting to get some respect for Clen.

 

Same.

I give him mega props - juice or no juice.

I just like Beterbiev better.

 

Clen should beat Plant without short notice training camp for Plant at 168 lbs and cease to jump up/ down/ catchweight/ clauses and hometown fights under clen rules.
If he will manage to reign 1 division for long time, this will gave him more legacy than Khan and shot Kovalev beatup ( I know that majority of ppl here did not had saw how Kovalev had looked vs Yarde, not alone vs Eleider in 1st their fight ( Eleider beated him more brutally in 1 round than Kov had beatup in whole his pro career. He floored Kov with not 1 single punch, then again and then_____ it was exectution in the ring ).