Canelo vs Bivol OFFICIAL for May 7 on DAZN PPV

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TSoprano, Feb 25, 2022.


Who wins and how?

Poll closed May 6, 2022.
  1. Canelo KO

    26 vote(s)
    16.1%
  2. Canelo on points

    65 vote(s)
    40.4%
  3. Bivol KO

    12 vote(s)
    7.5%
  4. Bivol on points

    58 vote(s)
    36.0%
  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Khan wasn't a 140 lber at that time. He had been at 147 for several fights before moving up to fight Canelo at 155. Brook had been at 147 as well and he had to make a much higher jump to fight GGG at 160. Yes, Brook was naturally bigger than Khan, but both were at the same weight, welterweight, when they moved up to fight Canelo / GGG.

    So lets be clear - Khan moved up 8 lbs to fight Canelo, while Brook moved up 13 lbs to fight GGG. Canelo agreed to a lower weight to fight Khan, GGG refused to do that for Brook. Therefore, GGG was a much bigger weight bully than Canelo, making Brook go all the way up to 160.

    Also Canelo didn't "drag" Khan up. It was quite the opposite. Khan "dragged" Canelo down to 155, requesting the catchweight. Khan even tried to pull a Floyd and drag Canelo all the way down to 153 but 155 was the lowest weight for defending the MW Title. Also Khan called up Canelo's team to request the fight, Canelo's team did not reach out to Khan.

    If anyone was a weight bully, it was GGG and Khan insisting on weights that benefited them. I know you like to criticize Canelo for his catchweight matches, but if we're honest all of the catchweights he had (with the exception of his match with JCC Jr) benefitted his opponents not him. When you agree to catchweights due to opponent demands, that's not you being a weight bully, that's you being weight bullied.
    It was competitive but also one-sided. Cotto didn't do enough to win more than a handful of rounds. He kept rounds close, but he did not win more than a few rounds. Also Canelo having immense respect for Cotto sort of carried Cotto. Canelo didn't try to hurt Cotto or get him out of there, he did just enough to win rounds, but Canelo coasted for most of that match rather than stepping on the gas and applying pressure to Cotto who was older and faded at that point.
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Like I'll bother reading a load of garbage from a clearly mentally ill moron.

    Just a few words in were enough to stop me from polluting myself further. You don't find it insulting enough that you're comparing Alvarez' early stay-active fights when he was 20 years old with the farce's career defining fights?
     
  3. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL yeah you backdown you hypocritical in denial pansy. You can't even fathom a response to the question because you simply don't have the intellect. What a coward
     
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  4. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just so many trash takes it's hilarious. I can't take you seriously because it is clear as day you are some Canelo marketing bot

    I'm not arguing GGG Brook wasn't a mismatch it was because the size difference was clear.

    And yeah it's all Khan's fault for Canelos cherrypicking. Khan IS a natural 140lber. And Canelo looked a 175-180lbs fight night. End of story.

    Cotto was aged and much smaller. It absolutely was a competitive fight do not be dishonest (I know its hards when it is in your nature) . I had Canelo winning 7-8 rounds.

    And finally Canelo was a weight bully at 154... Give it a rest and give fair criticism to all fighters you lunatic.
     
  5. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Says the moron comparing Alvarez' first 15 professional fights with Golovkin's "biggest" wins. :lol:
     
  6. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah keep it up with buzzwords and statements to save face whilst getting dominated and savagely mauled in actual arguments
     
  7. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Savage mauling you say?, like Golovkin vs Curtis "2Pac" Stevens?
     
  8. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Your definition of cherrypicking is patently hilarious. You consider Floyd Mayweather when he was P4P #1 in 2013 a "cherrypick" by Canelo. With these kinds of stances, you've lost any ability to discuss cherrypicking.

    As far as Khan being a natural 140lber, of course he was, but you made it sound like he was pulled up from 140 by Canelo. No, that's you exaggerating as usual. Khan had already moved up to 147 and was established at that weight. So it's different than you made it sound. So he wasn't dragged up multiple weight classes to fight Canelo. He went up exactly 1 weight class + 1lb. Multiple weight classes would be at least 2 full weight classes and that's not what happened. But that was what happened with Brook when he moved up "multiple weight classes" to fight GGG.

    You can namecall all you want, it doesn't change the fact that you exaggerate and misrepresent everything as it pertains to Canelo. No one outside of a handful of rogue GGG fanatics take you seriously. You allege that every Canelo match is "fixed" to avoid dealing with the reality that he's a great fighter and at the pinnacle of the sport. It's like that other poster said, did Canelo steal your girlfriend when you were in high school or something lol. You obviously have major Canelo issues, it's not normal or healthy and given your laughable stances you are in no position to speak down to anyone.
     
  9. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're not even worthy of a response. It's clear to everyone, apart from that other re **** Scar, that you are incapable of having any fair logical debate on anything Canelo wise. You can't even criticise Canelo, not once. Pathetic.
     
  10. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're relyiing on hilariously naive rhetorical questions and phrases. It's not covering for the fact you've just been destroyed, sit down village idiot
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh OK, I'm trying to have a fair logical debate with you, but rather than have one you're pulling the eject button like you're about to crash and burn.
     
  12. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's no logic you clown, there's just complete utter bias and worship for a fraud. Gtfoh
     
  13. Scar

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    Destroyed by a turd that compared Alvarez' first 15 professional fights with Golovkin's career-defining victories.

    The autism is real here.
     
  14. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stop trying to get the last word in to save face from having your pants down.

    If anything is autistic, it's drooling over the fixed fights and manufactured fraud that is Canelo. You've got to be real low IQ and autistic to fool for that. You have zero awareness
     
  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You were exaggerating. I brought you back down to earth. I keep you honest Q. If you were left to your own devices, it wouldn't be a pretty picture.