Canelo vs BJS

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Who wins?

  1. Canelo

  2. Billy Joe

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  1. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Sounders is huge at the weight. He's thicker and denser than GGG.
     
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  2. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Canelo would beat that overrated , featherfisted british coward and so would Jacobs . If BJS is so good why was he ducking GGG for so long ?
    All this BJS hype is based on his fight against lemieux , but
    GGG did not need to run for 12 rounds to beat Lemieux , while BJS ran for 12 rounds .
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Saunders can and has fought like that in the past, BJS is chameleonic, he can adjust his style per opponent. And no he fights nothing like Khan for Christ sakes.
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Well... if he does better than 116-112 GGG, then I guess he wins 118-110 or via shutout.:sisi1
     
  5. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    It seems pretty obvious to my eyes that Bill is a bigger guy than Canelo for sure.

    I don't know if it is PEDs or good old fashioned hard work but Billy has put on a lot of muscle since joining the Ingle gym.
    I don't think he has benefitted from the extra muscle it's hard to tell. He looked pretty unfit against Willie Monroe but he did look very strong and hard hitting.

    Against Lemieux who isn't exactly a endurance athlete Billy looked like he could have fought 50 rounds easily. He was looking very big and strong in that fight too.

    Canelo is pretty much made to order for Billy, slow footwork and a poor work rate, small for the weight without 1 punch ko power.

    Stylistically I think Jacobs has a much better shot at beating Billy. Although I would fancy Canelo to beat Jacobs. I would also fancy Billy to beat Jacobs too, just give Jacobs more of a chance than Canelo.
     
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  6. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Has he struggled to make it because he has no more fat to lose or because he is was ill disciplined whenever he wasn’t training?
     
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  7. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes and even the most corrupt judges or let’s just say those intent on scoring everything for Canelo,even they can’t help Canelo if it’s so one sided.
    For all Golovkins dominance in the first fight,the fact that neither got hurt or looked like A bloodied Rosado gave the judges their chance to help Canelo and even then Canelo gave em nothing to work with cause to be sure if they could of scored it a win for him they would of.
     
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  8. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think jacobs has a good chance of beating Saunders and I think Charlo does too, just stylistically. So whilst I don’t know if I can say that BJS is the best opponent on paper he is but in terms of people I fancy to beat him i think both those guys could do him.

    We have to see how Saunders does with an opponent that’s gunna make him work and invest to his body. Lemieux is a C level guy so whilst Saunders embarrassed him, I don’t give that win much credence.
     
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  9. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t know if Saunders is juicing but my suspicion is does guys down at the ingles gym are up to some dirty tricks. I remember ingle lifting his shirt on a YouTube video whilst talking to Saunders and I’m not even kidding this guy had a 8 pack and 5-7% body fat, if it wasn’t a video I would definitely believe it was photoshopped.
     
  10. Angler Andrew

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    Suspect gym,I know folk always tend to single Canelo out as the big weight cutter but I often said Kell Brook was on a par with Canelo in this regard.
    Saunders defo bigger than both Canelo and Golovkin but here’s where it can get confusing cause in terms of weight Canelo could be the same though latest pic showed him looking as light as we ever seen him.
     
  11. LordSouness

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    Saunders by a wide, wide UD. Too big, too quick, too strong, too intelligent. Canelo doesn't do anything well enough - as good as he is - to beat a zoned in Saunders, in my opinion.

    Would love to see the fight though and Canelo has improved in the past, so who knows.
     
  12. Liverpool82

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    I agree Stylistically Saunders is a nightmare for Canelo. At the same time he doesn't possess the power to deter him coming forward- Canelo would be relentless. Interesting fight but I'd lean towards BJS via UD.
     
  13. N17

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    BJS outboxes and wins relatively comfortably, 117-111 (9-3) at worst maybe 116-112 (8-4)

    And then Adalaide Byrd scores it 120-108 Canelo.

    We have seen this all before.
     
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  14. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In all Saunders fights when have we ever seen him hurt or even marked up?the guy hardly gets hit and that running thing is just total BS,hated it when they levelled that Floyd also.
    Could of gone for the finish against Lemieux but even Roy Jones said why would you when he’s on toast.
     
  15. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    May Isal and Shadow strike me down and call me a GGG nut hugger lol but this guy is so good that even though Jacob n Canelo were top grade boxers who fought in a manner that didn’t play into his hands.
    Thing is though and here comes the nuthuggery Isal,Golovkin is so experienced,so skilful at setting up opponents that I do wonder if Golovkin boxed Jacobs n Canelo for the win making us all and the media declare he’s aged too much when infact truth is we didn’t see Golovkin once in those two fights go into his street fight mode ala Brook.
    He seemed apologetic after knocking down Jacobs and never once tried to finish him whilst with Canelo he kept saying “I’m a boxer,this is what I do”.

    I’m sure Isal would be right in laughing at me and I’ll take what comes lol but there is one truth in all this conspiracy theory stuff and that’s Golovkin is just so many levels above everyone and has just shown us that wether he chooses to Box in his super Well drilled Kazakhstan Orthadox way or chooses to street fight,quite simply I don’t see Canelo ever beating him with fair judging
     
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